[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[drunkf1fan]

Gary Anderson makes a big article talking about testing results, does tire and fuel adjusting and doesn't realize not everyone had their performance on the fastest lap. McLaren barely improved on C4 but he used those instead of C3.

Not to mention his "fuel adjusting" which is probably just tuning the lineup so that it fits with his expectation. On a more positive note, if he is even remotely accurate then McLaren closed the gap to top 3.

https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-and ... r-testing/

Yup, I mean Max straight up obviously lifted before the line drastically changing his lap time, lots of guys did this. His numbers are utterly meaningless. Gary Anderson misses so much and makes so many obviously incorrect statements that I haven't taken anything he said seriously in a very very long time.

I don't know if he just got left behind by technology and data, maybe he is widely disliked in the paddock so doesn't have many people willing to give him info or he just doesn't care and just writes whatever he thinks is easiest/will get hits. Any time I read an article of his I'm left thinking he doesn't know what he's talking about.

[FittingMechanics]

Gary Anderson makes a big article talking about testing results, does tire and fuel adjusting and doesn't realize not everyone had their performance on the fastest lap. McLaren barely improved on C4 but he used those instead of C3.

Not to mention his "fuel adjusting" which is probably just tuning the lineup so that it fits with his expectation. On a more positive note, if he is even remotely accurate then McLaren closed the gap to top 3.

https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-and ... r-testing/

Yup, I mean Max straight up obviously lifted before the line drastically changing his lap time, lots of guys did this. His numbers are utterly meaningless. Gary Anderson misses so much and makes so many obviously incorrect statements that I haven't taken anything he said seriously in a very very long time.

I don't know if he just got left behind by technology and data, maybe he is widely disliked in the paddock so doesn't have many people willing to give him info or he just doesn't care and just writes whatever he thinks is easiest/will get hits. Any time I read an article of his I'm left thinking he doesn't know what he's talking about.

I'd love to see that lap from Max people are talking about. If I remember correctly, on one occasion where he did that it was on his second fast lap on a single set of tires, on the first run he went wide in the last corner, then he did a cooldown lap and started again, this time he was green in first two sectors but his tires couldn't hold on and his delta on the dash showed him behind his laptime so he backed off.

I doubt people were doing as much lifting off as people tend to think.

[Carlen]

When will the build of a new wind tunnel and simulator be completed?

[charliesmithhd]

When will the build of a new wind tunnel and simulator be completed?

2022 car will be 1st car with new wind tunnel

[SmallSoldier]

Interesting that Mclaren seems to be the fastest team in Medium speed corners... Also, the cluster of times in C3 is good (although, Mclaren run very limited amount of times in C3, focusing on C2 and C1’s for the most part of testing...

Also, a quick and dirty look at the distribution in the different sections and power limited seem to show that RP were driving their PU in probably a bit more of an aggressive mode than others, easily leading in the power limited sections (let’s remember that the W10 wasn’t the most slippery car in 2019 and considered to an extend draggy)... In any case, The MCL35 seems to be a solid base car according to the data.



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[Carlen]

Does anyone know the characteristics of a wind tunnel, where models are purged? In which component is the current wind tunnel bad?

[SmallSoldier]

Does anyone know the characteristics of a wind tunnel, where models are purged? In which component is the current wind tunnel bad?

The problem with the current wind tunnel is that it’s too narrow, therefore not suitable for the cars that use the outwash... With the cars growing in dimensions in during the last decade and the effect of the outwash been more important, the Mclaren wind tunnel ended up been obsolete for the current formula... I’m sure that the systems and other ancillaries could use a good refresh and update as well in order to get more resolution out of it.


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[Motörhead]

The feeling I have from this preseason test is that Mclaren dealt with it as a frontrunning team. No mistakes, excellent reliability, ticked all the boxes.

I agree, that has to be highlight of testing for sure... No issues, no reliability problems, the drivers didn’t bin it at all (I’m not sure, but I believe they never had an spin on track?)... In that regard, it was the best testing the team has had in a very long time.

And just from anecdotal stand point, last year the best time of testing with the MCL34 was a 1:16.9 in the C5 compound... This year, their best performance (not lap time) was a 1:16.8 in the C3 compound... That’s a very decent improvement year on year.


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Yeah, 16.8 on a C3 is a fast laptime. IIRC other day had the same thing happen as well, they did a quick lap on a harder tire and then put on a softer tire which improved the laptime by a few milliseconds. So yesterday in official timing it looks like McLaren did 1:16.8 on a C4.

There are no "tire adjusted" graphs this year? Chandhook got burned last year?

He backed off in sector 3 on the C4 deliberately.... But still managed a quicker lap, if only by a few milliseconds as you quite correctly say.......

[Sanchit f1fan]

Interesting that Mclaren seems to be the fastest team in Medium speed corners... Also, the cluster of times in C3 is good (although, Mclaren run very limited amount of times in C3, focusing on C2 and C1’s for the most part of testing...

Also, a quick and dirty look at the distribution in the different sections and power limited seem to show that RP were driving their PU in probably a bit more of an aggressive mode than others, easily leading in the power limited sections (let’s remember that the W10 wasn’t the most slippery car in 2019 and considered to an extend draggy)... In any case, The MCL35 seems to be a solid base car according to the data.

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That's a fantastic chart they are great in mid to high speed section so it's great

[proteus]

I dont like the fact that they are again the slowest car in a straight line,the whole thing somewhat equalises when DRS is deployed but still, this means chasis itself is draggy again.

Hopefully engine was detuned, or they intentionaly held back a bit, otherwise we could be seeing another 2017/18 repeating itself again. I hope not.

[SmallSoldier]

I dont like the fact that they are again the slowest car in a straight line,the whole thing somewhat equalises when DRS is deployed but still, this means chasis itself is draggy again.

Hopefully engine was detuned, or they intentionaly held back a bit, otherwise we could be seeing another 2017/18 repeating itself again. I hope not.

The Power limited portion could easily be affected by the engine or fuel loads, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it...


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[diffuser]

Gary Anderson makes a big article talking about testing results, does tire and fuel adjusting and doesn't realize not everyone had their performance on the fastest lap. McLaren barely improved on C4 but he used those instead of C3.

Not to mention his "fuel adjusting" which is probably just tuning the lineup so that it fits with his expectation. On a more positive note, if he is even remotely accurate then McLaren closed the gap to top 3.

https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-and ... r-testing/

Yup, I mean Max straight up obviously lifted before the line drastically changing his lap time, lots of guys did this. His numbers are utterly meaningless. Gary Anderson misses so much and makes so many obviously incorrect statements that I haven't taken anything he said seriously in a very very long time.

I don't know if he just got left behind by technology and data, maybe he is widely disliked in the paddock so doesn't have many people willing to give him info or he just doesn't care and just writes whatever he thinks is easiest/will get hits. Any time I read an article of his I'm left thinking he doesn't know what he's talking about.

I'd love to see that lap from Max people are talking about. If I remember correctly, on one occasion where he did that it was on his second fast lap on a single set of tires, on the first run he went wide in the last corner, then he did a cooldown lap and started again, this time he was green in first two sectors but his tires couldn't hold on and his delta on the dash showed him behind his laptime so he backed off.

I doubt people were doing as much lifting off as people tend to think.

One of the very first things Gary says is "it’s still very difficult to come up with a running order". So he is saying he doesn't know. This is a best guess.

[Jackles-UK]

Another thing to note is that testing gives you a snapshot of performance at one track only and Barcelona was one of the weaker tracks of the season for the MCL34, qualifying 11th and 13th on the grid before penalties were applied. Assuming that the MCL35 is an evolution of its predecessor, we can probably expect to jump up the order at tracks like Bahrain where the team were very strong last year.

[McG]

Gary Anderson makes a big article talking about testing results, does tire and fuel adjusting and doesn't realize not everyone had their performance on the fastest lap. McLaren barely improved on C4 but he used those instead of C3.

Not to mention his "fuel adjusting" which is probably just tuning the lineup so that it fits with his expectation. On a more positive note, if he is even remotely accurate then McLaren closed the gap to top 3.

https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-and ... r-testing/

Yup, I mean Max straight up obviously lifted before the line drastically changing his lap time, lots of guys did this. His numbers are utterly meaningless. Gary Anderson misses so much and makes so many obviously incorrect statements that I haven't taken anything he said seriously in a very very long time.

I don't know if he just got left behind by technology and data, maybe he is widely disliked in the paddock so doesn't have many people willing to give him info or he just doesn't care and just writes whatever he thinks is easiest/will get hits. Any time I read an article of his I'm left thinking he doesn't know what he's talking about.

I'd love to see that lap from Max people are talking about. If I remember correctly, on one occasion where he did that it was on his second fast lap on a single set of tires, on the first run he went wide in the last corner, then he did a cooldown lap and started again, this time he was green in first two sectors but his tires couldn't hold on and his delta on the dash showed him behind his laptime so he backed off.

I doubt people were doing as much lifting off as people tend to think.

Actually it's the opposite. They do more lifting than what people think. Also they will not go full speed on the main straight a lot of the time. Sandbagging isn't just heavy fuel, there's a lot of little ways they will slow their lap.

[Zynerji]

Wide apexes as well...