FIA-Ferrari PU Statement Controversy

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wickedz50 wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:24
Either FIA and Ferrari attracting publicity or both are biggest idiots of this world.
To be honest, the FIA mostly. Should Ferrari have done something dodgy, it's best for them to shut up right now. The FIA on the other hand handled it like utter morons.
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214270 wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:34

The ‘settlement’ most likely negates that.
Well, exactly. And what’s in it for Ferrari if they’re confident of their innocence? This means the FIA is free to air their dirty laundry and Ferrari have signed away their right to defend themselves.

Now... why would they want to do that?

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Let's go to Australia and see how the audience will express their opinion....

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The dispute will most likely be settled by the application of sums of money.

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JPBD1990 wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:41
214270 wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:34

The ‘settlement’ most likely negates that.
Well, exactly. And what’s in it for Ferrari if they’re confident of their innocence? This means the FIA is free to air their dirty laundry and Ferrari have signed away their right to defend themselves.

Now... why would they want to do that?
Exactly. That’s what doesn’t make sense.

If Ferrari were innocent why would they agree to a situation where the FIA can pretty much call them cheats that they just cannot prove?

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gshevlin wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:45
The dispute will most likely be settled by the application of sums of money.
I doubt it. Marko always seems ready for a scrap.

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Restomaniac wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:36
jumpingfish wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:27
Restomaniac wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:23
You miss the point. The FIA’s statement is an admission that they think Ferrari cheated but they’re going to stop attempting to prove it. I doubt the other teams will settle for that and will insist (in court) that the FIA continue until they get to the bottom of it.
On what basis? What can they do to force FIA re-open the investigation?
Test the rule the FIA have quoted to cover themselves in this statement. The point (again) is that I doubt this will vanish as it’s over Millions of Pounds and I get the impression Red Bull (for a start) are never shy of sticking it to others.

I get that as a Ferrari fan you want this to stop. However unfortunately I think you’ll be disappointed.
I'll not be disapointed and I made screenshot of this page for memory. H. Marko will threaten with protests and appeals to the court, but will not achieve anything.

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jumpingfish wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:56
Restomaniac wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:36
jumpingfish wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:27

On what basis? What can they do to force FIA re-open the investigation?
Test the rule the FIA have quoted to cover themselves in this statement. The point (again) is that I doubt this will vanish as it’s over Millions of Pounds and I get the impression Red Bull (for a start) are never shy of sticking it to others.

I get that as a Ferrari fan you want this to stop. However unfortunately I think you’ll be disappointed.
I'll not be disapointed and I made screenshot of this page for memory. H. Marko will threaten with protests and appeals to the court, but will not achieve anything.
Why exactly have you screenshotted it?

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Ferrari is keeping their mouth shut for one reason and it’s not cause they’re guilty. The story of the whistleblower is getting realer as days go by

However, this whole situation could go down like some sort of FISA/FOCA war and races being boycotted.

This is F1 - for those who think it has been a “spirit of the rules” and “FairPlay” sport, a slap back to reality maybe. A big middle finger to that pointless argument

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jumpingfish wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:56
Restomaniac wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:36
jumpingfish wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:27

On what basis? What can they do to force FIA re-open the investigation?
Test the rule the FIA have quoted to cover themselves in this statement. The point (again) is that I doubt this will vanish as it’s over Millions of Pounds and I get the impression Red Bull (for a start) are never shy of sticking it to others.

I get that as a Ferrari fan you want this to stop. However unfortunately I think you’ll be disappointed.
I'll not be disapointed and I made screenshot of this page for memory. H. Marko will threaten with protests and appeals to the court, but will not achieve anything.
We have a saying where i come from. If one person tells you you’re drunk, it’s okay to not believe him. If more start telling you the same thing, maybe it’s time for you to go to sleep. I refuse to believe, all the F1 teams would have come together in an unprecedented way unless they had a solid understanding of either a breach, or they way it can be done. I also refuse to believe this block of teams will now simply back off. They will simply not, due to money, sportsmanship and time invested.

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Restomaniac wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 16:03
Why exactly have you screenshotted it?
Will print it and put it on the wall as one of his greatest achievements in life in case he's right :lol:

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mafeotul wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 16:04
jumpingfish wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:56
Restomaniac wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:36
Test the rule the FIA have quoted to cover themselves in this statement. The point (again) is that I doubt this will vanish as it’s over Millions of Pounds and I get the impression Red Bull (for a start) are never shy of sticking it to others.

I get that as a Ferrari fan you want this to stop. However unfortunately I think you’ll be disappointed.
I'll not be disapointed and I made screenshot of this page for memory. H. Marko will threaten with protests and appeals to the court, but will not achieve anything.
We have a saying where i come from. If one person tells you you’re drunk, it’s okay to not believe him. If more start telling you the same thing, maybe it’s time for you to go to sleep. I refuse to believe, all the F1 teams would have come together in an unprecedented way unless they had a solid understanding of either a breach, or they way it can be done. I also refuse to believe this block of teams will now simply back off. They will simply not, due to money, sportsmanship and time invested.
Also, it allows them to keep sticking the knife into Ferrari and keep attention away from their own shady systems! Honestly, if they had released that last statement first this would all be going so much better for all of them.

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bonjon1979 wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 16:08
mafeotul wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 16:04
jumpingfish wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 15:56

I'll not be disapointed and I made screenshot of this page for memory. H. Marko will threaten with protests and appeals to the court, but will not achieve anything.
We have a saying where i come from. If one person tells you you’re drunk, it’s okay to not believe him. If more start telling you the same thing, maybe it’s time for you to go to sleep. I refuse to believe, all the F1 teams would have come together in an unprecedented way unless they had a solid understanding of either a breach, or they way it can be done. I also refuse to believe this block of teams will now simply back off. They will simply not, due to money, sportsmanship and time invested.
Also, it allows them to keep sticking the knife into Ferrari and keep attention away from their own shady systems! Honestly, if they had released that last statement first this would all be going so much better for all of them.
Also again, if Ferrari are convinced that nothing was illegal about their PU then surely they'll just be running the same system this year?

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bonjon1979 wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 16:09
bonjon1979 wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 16:08
mafeotul wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 16:04


We have a saying where i come from. If one person tells you you’re drunk, it’s okay to not believe him. If more start telling you the same thing, maybe it’s time for you to go to sleep. I refuse to believe, all the F1 teams would have come together in an unprecedented way unless they had a solid understanding of either a breach, or they way it can be done. I also refuse to believe this block of teams will now simply back off. They will simply not, due to money, sportsmanship and time invested.
Also, it allows them to keep sticking the knife into Ferrari and keep attention away from their own shady systems! Honestly, if they had released that last statement first this would all be going so much better for all of them.
Also again, if Ferrari are convinced that nothing was illegal about their PU then surely they'll just be running the same system this year?
yes, they will.
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bonjon1979 wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 16:09
bonjon1979 wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 16:08
mafeotul wrote:
05 Mar 2020, 16:04


We have a saying where i come from. If one person tells you you’re drunk, it’s okay to not believe him. If more start telling you the same thing, maybe it’s time for you to go to sleep. I refuse to believe, all the F1 teams would have come together in an unprecedented way unless they had a solid understanding of either a breach, or they way it can be done. I also refuse to believe this block of teams will now simply back off. They will simply not, due to money, sportsmanship and time invested.
Also, it allows them to keep sticking the knife into Ferrari and keep attention away from their own shady systems! Honestly, if they had released that last statement first this would all be going so much better for all of them.
Also again, if Ferrari are convinced that nothing was illegal about their PU then surely they'll just be running the same system this year?
I believe they are running a completely different PU configuration this year.