FIA-Ferrari PU Statement Controversy

[Schumix]

You are all reading it wrong, like you want to read it.

"The FIA has conducted detailed technical analysis on the Scuderia Ferrari Power Unit as it is entitled to do for any competitor in the FIA Formula One World Championship."

"The extensive and thorough investigations undertaken during the 2019 season raised suspicions that the Scuderia Ferrari PU could be considered as not operating within the limits of the FIA regulations at all times."

The suspicion was not raised within the FIA because of their findings. Suspicions was raised among competitors and in the "court" of public opinion due to the "continual" investigations. they actually use the word Suspicions and not Suspicion.
They also do not state "we found areas that we found as suspicious". only that "The extensive and thorough investigations undertaken during the 2019 season raised suspicions"

The Scuderia Ferrari firmly opposed the suspicions and reiterated that its PU always operated in compliance with the regulations.
The FIA was not fully satisfied but decided that further action would not necessarily result in a conclusive case due to the complexity of the matter and the material impossibility to provide the unequivocal evidence of a breach.

This is also quite simple, they now know what they are doing,they don't agree with it, but as the rules are written there is no regulation covering it. the FIA knows this will fail in court, and issuing a TD on this matter would clearly expose something that Ferrari considers their intellectual property and for the FIA to clarify this would also open them up to possible legal action from Ferrari.
They also found it a "material impossibility to provide the unequivocal evidence of a breach"
so according to this portion that is conveniently ignored by most, the FIA found no evidence of breech.

We will probably find that with the next revision of PU rules, this loophole will quietly be closed.

Why are they installing a second sensor as part of the monitoring system? It's not just for giggles. Ferrari has acknowledged that they will be down on power, wonder why.

They already said that Ferrari has provided their contribution and support on how to better control the engines compliance with the specifications. The 2nd FF meter may be there to make sure that no one will skirt the max fuel flow rate (the FF loophole is then closed). It can also indicate that Ferrari innovation is not about fuel flow rate ou fuel consumption...

[Chene_Mostert]

So in summary as it reads.

1. The FIA conducted a detailed technical analysis of the Ferrari PU – The FIA is entitled to perform this analysis on any competitor.

2. The extensive technical analysis raised suspicions that the Ferrari PU could be considered to not be operating within the rules.

3. Ferrari opposed the suspicions


4. The FIA was not FULLY satisfied ( we understand what you are doing, but we really did not intend for it to be done the way you are doing it.)

5. The FIA decided not to take the matter further since they could not provide material evidence to prove conclusively an unequivocal breech of regulation.

6. Ferrari and the FIA shook hands and committed to work together in future automotive / motorsport endeavours.

[Just_a_fan]

You are all reading it wrong, like you want to read it.

And you're not reading how you want to read it?

The statement is deliberately written to not dig a hole for the FIA. They've got as close to saying "they did it" as they can without having to go to court.

[Chene_Mostert]

You are all reading it wrong, like you want to read it.

And you're not reading how you want to read it?

The statement is deliberately written to not dig a hole for the FIA. They've got as close to saying "they did it" as they can without having to go to court.

no

[214270]

Interesting point made here: If we (Merc & RB) brought this to the attention of the FIA, can we really be considered a third-party and excluded from the terms of settlement?

[TAG]

So in summary as it reads.

1. The FIA conducted a detailed technical analysis of the Ferrari PU – The FIA is entitled to perform this analysis on any competitor.

2. The extensive technical analysis raised suspicions that the Ferrari PU could be considered to not be operating within the rules.

3. Ferrari opposed the suspicions


4. The FIA was not FULLY satisfied ( we understand what you are doing, but we really did not intend for it to be done the way you are doing it.)

5. The FIA decided not to take the matter further since they could not provide material evidence to prove conclusively an unequivocal breech of regulation.

6. Ferrari and the FIA shook hands and committed to work together in future automotive / motorsport endeavours.

Then they should be a rocket down the straights in Baku. I can't wait.

[Just_a_fan]

You are all reading it wrong, like you want to read it.

And you're not reading how you want to read it?

The statement is deliberately written to not dig a hole for the FIA. They've got as close to saying "they did it" as they can without having to go to court.

no

Yes.


(this is going to be a fun game )

[Chene_Mostert]

Interesting point made here: If we (Merc & RB) brought this to the attention of the FIA, can we really be considered a third-party and excluded from the terms of settlement?

They never lodged a formal protest..
That's why the FIA stated that they reserve the right to perform detailed technical analysis on any competitor.
The were not requested by any team to perform the detailed technical analysis.

[Schumix]

Interesting point made here: If we (Merc & RB) brought this to the attention of the FIA, can we really be considered a third-party and excluded from the terms of settlement?

Yes, the dispositions of the FIA regulation allow the FIA to close an investigation with a confidential agreement (settlement).

[214270]

Interesting point made here: If we (Merc & RB) brought this to the attention of the FIA, can we really be considered a third-party and excluded from the terms of settlement?

No, they never lodged a formal protest..
That's why the FIA stated that they reserve the right to perform detailed technical analysis on any competitor.
The were not requested by any team to perform the detailed technical analysis.

Like I said before, the conversation has advanced far beyond these matters of procedure you keep mentioning. There is nothing procedural about how this has been handled to date IMO.

[etusch]

So fia can not police teams and can not assure anyone to keep competition fair.
Fia makes agreement only with ferrari to police teams more technically so they can find only what ferrari allows them to see when it comes to ferrari but when it come to others they will investigate them by help of ferrari. What a fairness!
Fia uses sensor to keep teams within rules for fuel flow but tool they used for it is deceptible and when deception occur they are not able to find it out. It is really comic. And they are calling this investigation. This last anouncement is worse than the before and a kind of insult all of us.

[Ced]

So @ScuderiaFerrari was/is playing with the rules of the own @fia but it is unable to prove what is wrong in it. Ironical!
There is a high probability Ferrari could carry it this season and the next one too ??

[Chene_Mostert]

So fia can not police teams and can not assure anyone to keep competition fair.
Fia makes agreement only with ferrari to police teams more technically so they can find only what ferrari allows them to see when it comes to ferrari but when it come to others they will investigate them by help of ferrari. What a fairness!
Fia uses sensor to keep teams within rules for fuel flow but tool they used for it is deceptible and when deception occur they are not able to find it out. It is really comic. And they are calling this investigation. This last anouncement is worse than the before and a kind of insult all of us.

They can.
What they can't do is prosecute without material evidence to prove conclusively an unequivocal breech of regulation.

[etusch]

So fia can not police teams and can not assure anyone to keep competition fair.
Fia makes agreement only with ferrari to police teams more technically so they can find only what ferrari allows them to see when it comes to ferrari but when it come to others they will investigate them by help of ferrari. What a fairness!
Fia uses sensor to keep teams within rules for fuel flow but tool they used for it is deceptible and when deception occur they are not able to find it out. It is really comic. And they are calling this investigation. This last anouncement is worse than the before and a kind of insult all of us.

They can.
What they can't do is prosecute without material evidence to prove conclusively an unequivocal breech of regulation.

It is not that hard. Just put another sensor to same ferrari car with same race settings they used monza last year and look if it can reach same speed with same conditions at monza.

[Mr.G]

So fia can not police teams and can not assure anyone to keep competition fair.
Fia makes agreement only with ferrari to police teams more technically so they can find only what ferrari allows them to see when it comes to ferrari but when it come to others they will investigate them by help of ferrari. What a fairness!
Fia uses sensor to keep teams within rules for fuel flow but tool they used for it is deceptible and when deception occur they are not able to find it out. It is really comic. And they are calling this investigation. This last anouncement is worse than the before and a kind of insult all of us.

It's like RedBull and his flexible wings...