2020 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 12-15

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etusch
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Re: 2020 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 12-15

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Jip wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:34
Ringleheim wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:17
F1Krof wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:06
Yep it's off.
Can't we at least have a non-championship race with less than full participants?

How about qualifying but no race to see the pecking order?

THIS IS TORTURE. After all the waiting, we make it to the day of cars on track, and they cancel it?
And what about the 300.000 people who are coming to the circuit? You think that is responsible? Who cares about the 'pecking order', that isn't the priority right now. We can see the pecking order when we are ready to race at a venue where it is save for the teams, drivers en spectators. The way you are commenting on this and saying it is 'torture' is really selfish when you sit at home and don't need to worry about a possible infection.
Health is of course more important but why it is not canceled while hundered of people infected but after one McLaren stuff?

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siskue2005 wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:36
Jip wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:34
Ringleheim wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:17


Can't we at least have a non-championship race with less than full participants?

How about qualifying but no race to see the pecking order?

THIS IS TORTURE. After all the waiting, we make it to the day of cars on track, and they cancel it?
And what about the 300.000 people who are coming to the circuit? You think that is responsible? Who cares about the 'pecking order', that isn't the priority right now. We can see the pecking order when we are ready to race at a venue where it is save for the teams, drivers en spectators. The way you are commenting on this and saying it is 'torture' is really selfish when you sit at home and don't need to worry about a possible infection.
This corona virus is not gonna go out easily, so are you saying all races where people come should be cancelled?
Is the entire season going to be cancelled??
They need to find a solution for this, very soon.
No not every race, you need to look at it per race. The first three, so Australia, Bahrain and Vietnam should be postponed. The hope is when it gets warmer the virus goes away. But you just don't know what the situation will be in a month, so it is difficult to make a decision based on that.

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Re: 2020 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 12-15

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One thing that us here in Europe didn't take into account is that it was-is midnight in Australia! Did all the teams have a meeting midnight?? :P

I'm still hoping it goes ahead! :lol:
It won't i know...
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Many people seem to to be forgetting their is a difference between precautions and paranoia. I've seen far more of the later lately than I have the prior.
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etusch wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:39
Jip wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:34
Ringleheim wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:17


Can't we at least have a non-championship race with less than full participants?

How about qualifying but no race to see the pecking order?

THIS IS TORTURE. After all the waiting, we make it to the day of cars on track, and they cancel it?
And what about the 300.000 people who are coming to the circuit? You think that is responsible? Who cares about the 'pecking order', that isn't the priority right now. We can see the pecking order when we are ready to race at a venue where it is save for the teams, drivers en spectators. The way you are commenting on this and saying it is 'torture' is really selfish when you sit at home and don't need to worry about a possible infection.
Health is of course more important but why it is not canceled while hundered of people infected but after one McLaren stuff?
Don't ask me. The race should have been canceled a week ago, though they thought money was more important than the health of the team members and spectators. Think the case at McLaren really confronts them and they now realise when they are continuing it could have big consequences for F1.

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Re: 2020 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 12-15

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Jip wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:52
siskue2005 wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:36
Jip wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:34


And what about the 300.000 people who are coming to the circuit? You think that is responsible? Who cares about the 'pecking order', that isn't the priority right now. We can see the pecking order when we are ready to race at a venue where it is save for the teams, drivers en spectators. The way you are commenting on this and saying it is 'torture' is really selfish when you sit at home and don't need to worry about a possible infection.
This corona virus is not gonna go out easily, so are you saying all races where people come should be cancelled?
Is the entire season going to be cancelled??
They need to find a solution for this, very soon.
No not every race, you need to look at it per race. The first three, so Australia, Bahrain and Vietnam should be postponed. The hope is when it gets warmer the virus goes away. But you just don't know what the situation will be in a month, so it is difficult to make a decision based on that.
Bahrain and Vietnam are already very hot places

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siskue2005 wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:58
Jip wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:52
siskue2005 wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:36


This corona virus is not gonna go out easily, so are you saying all races where people come should be cancelled?
Is the entire season going to be cancelled??
They need to find a solution for this, very soon.
No not every race, you need to look at it per race. The first three, so Australia, Bahrain and Vietnam should be postponed. The hope is when it gets warmer the virus goes away. But you just don't know what the situation will be in a month, so it is difficult to make a decision based on that.
Bahrain and Vietnam are already very hot places
Both countries have confirmed corona cases, and we Europeans can still pass on the virus there.
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Just an incidental, but for a few days the population of the city is up quarter of a million, so the services may not cope if there is a crisis, like thousands of people needing to be quarantined.
The one day visitors would just not go or go home to be ill, but they would struggle with the out of towners that had mixed with a known source.
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Jip wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:59
siskue2005 wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:58
Jip wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:52


No not every race, you need to look at it per race. The first three, so Australia, Bahrain and Vietnam should be postponed. The hope is when it gets warmer the virus goes away. But you just don't know what the situation will be in a month, so it is difficult to make a decision based on that.
Bahrain and Vietnam are already very hot places
Both countries have confirmed corona cases, and we Europeans can still pass on the virus there.
But according to your statement the virus should go away when it gets warmer! so the virus in bahrain and viatenam should have gone away by now!

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falonso81 wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:37
I am as serious as one can be. We are facing a global virus outbreak. Shouldn't F1 teams and the FIA taken more strict measures? Shouldn't all team members be tested 2 weeks prior to departure and a second time right before departure? Shouldn't the FIA ensure that everything is ok before allowing the teams to fly to Australia? From the moment they gave the GP the green light they should have been! I really am perplexed that you are calling me names just because i have a different opinion than yours. I am guessing this apply to everyone you meet and talk that are not in line with you.
You're assuming the individual affected contracted the virus in the UK and flew over with it. The teams have already been in Melbourne for a near a week now, it's likely they caught it there. No country has the capacity to screen an entire F1 circus on demand, especially when it's needed more elsewhere. That's why we're being told to self isolate if we show symptoms. To lay blame on McLaren or anyone else for catching it is simply ridiculous. Truth is the race should have been cancelled a week ago before they flew out.

People are having a go at you not because of a difference of opinion, but because you're behaving like a spoiled child that your entertainment for the weekend is affected. We're all gutted about it, but it's the obvious and right call.

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etusch wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 20:39
Health is of course more important but why it is not canceled while hundered of people infected but after one McLaren stuff?
Would you prefer to be in a city with a hundred people infected or on a ship with just one?
F1 is a very compact community if regular activities continue, the risk of the virus spreading among personnel is high.

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Big Tea wrote:
12 Mar 2020, 21:02
Just an incidental, but for a few days the population of the city is up quarter of a million, so the services may not cope if there is a crisis, like thousands of people needing to be quarantined.
The one day visitors would just not go or go home to be ill, but they would struggle with the out of towners that had mixed with a known source.
This.

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While we are waiting for an official statement from F1 and FIA regarding the Australian GP, FIA's boss tweets about his meeting with Business Club :roll:
"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."~William Shakespeare

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Re: 2020 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 12-15

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Honestly, it's mind blowing that we even got to this situation where we're cancelling it last minute. It was stupid to even fly the teams out to Australia, as much as I'm pent up as the next guy with anticipation for the start of the season. It blows but I'm actually kinda embarassed about the late cancellation. So short sighted. 2020 is going to be a bit of a writeoff, I can't see how we can put together a meanigful, or reliable calendar this racing year. Might have to just settle for a handful of european races in the summer, as an exhibition or something?
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As someone who has been infected and lived through the virus, I can understand why they'd cancel the race. The symptoms are not fun to live with, not deadly for the most part, but definitely not fun. It takes over 2 weeks to beat the infection. In those 2 weeks you'll have a bad cold, fever, nausea, diarrhea, breathing issues. Not fun, the first 3 days of symptoms sleeping is all you want to do but can't because you have intense chills. I had to have the heater on and I live in South Florida, the temperature never gets under 22c. Then you think you're getting better and it comes back with a vengeance. I had to spend the day in a sauna just so I could breathe in round 2. It's been just over 2 weeks and I have my appetite again, I lost nearly 4kg(down to 60kg), lack of energy, shortness of breath.

The race should have been cancelled last month, I feel it is now too late, because the virus has up to 10 days incubation period. Those who are going to get sick have already been exposed. If team personnel have been infected then they'll start feeling it by Bahrain latest.
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