COVID-19 could affect more races this year.

[nzjrs]

I see it a being realistic. You can not put a country into hard lockdown without a large paramilitary style police force prepared to take the unacceptable measures which would be needed to enforce it.

I'm not taking a position on the UK plan, I'm just sharing my prediction on how it is percieved, and the consequences of that perception.

China had a severe clampdown and it did little good as the horse had already bolted.
Had the stable door been closed before anyone infected came to UK it would be a different case, but that time is long gone.

That's literally not true AFAICT. The comparative numbers bear out the success of China's strategy https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries and http://nrg.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mjh/covid19/ for example.

At least for now, time will tell, but time will also tell with the UK strategy.

[mmred]

I personally believe we have 2 options

1/ the whole world goes into quarantine for a month... no work, no shopping including food - then maybe we could stop the virus dead in its tracks. This is unlikely to happen

Option 2 - business as usually but we protect the elderly and sick who seem most likely to require hospital treatment by putting them in quarantine, so hospitals are able to treat a smaller number of those who unexpectedly require treatment - More likely to be successful in my opinion

Option 1 and i am smartworking. Plants are open. Just assemblement are forbidden for non work reason

[Big Tea]

I see it a being realistic. You can not put a country into hard lockdown without a large paramilitary style police force prepared to take the unacceptable measures which would be needed to enforce it.

I'm not taking a position on the UK plan, I'm just sharing my prediction on how it is percieved, and the consequences of that perception.

China had a severe clampdown and it did little good as the horse had already bolted.
Had the stable door been closed before anyone infected came to UK it would be a different case, but that time is long gone.

That's literally not true AFAICT. The comparative numbers bear out the success of China's strategy https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries and http://nrg.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mjh/covid19/ for example.

At least for now, time will tell, but time will also tell with the UK strategy.

As I am not saying it is the best plan, just that it seems to be misunderstood and seen as 'abandoning' people to just get on with it and die. That is not the case. It is a slightly more long term option than lock everyone in until it goes away, then they all get it next time. It may be a complete fail, but we will not know until the future.

What I was stressing was that it is not an inhuman plan to just let it take its course.

BTW, I have a vested interest because I am in the highest risk groups.

[the EDGE]

I personally believe we have 2 options

1/ the whole world goes into quarantine for a month... no work, no shopping including food - then maybe we could stop the virus dead in its tracks. This is unlikely to happen

Option 2 - business as usually but we protect the elderly and sick who seem most likely to require hospital treatment by putting them in quarantine, so hospitals are able to treat a smaller number of those who unexpectedly require treatment - More likely to be successful in my opinion

Option 1 and i am smartworking. Plants are open. Just assemblement are forbidden for non work reason

The surly the virus will continue to spread, seeing as it’s contagious before symptoms show?

[mmred]

I personally believe we have 2 options

1/ the whole world goes into quarantine for a month... no work, no shopping including food - then maybe we could stop the virus dead in its tracks. This is unlikely to happen

Option 2 - business as usually but we protect the elderly and sick who seem most likely to require hospital treatment by putting them in quarantine, so hospitals are able to treat a smaller number of those who unexpectedly require treatment - More likely to be successful in my opinion

Option 1 and i am smartworking. Plants are open. Just assemblement are forbidden for non work reason

The surly the virus will continue to spread, seeing as it’s contagious before symptoms show?

Reduced interaction Is intended to slow It Down as opposed to free interaction and f@ck the elders

[mmred]

I see it a being realistic. You can not put a country into hard lockdown without a large paramilitary style police force prepared to take the unacceptable measures which would be needed to enforce it.

I'm not taking a position on the UK plan, I'm just sharing my prediction on how it is percieved, and the consequences of that perception.

China had a severe clampdown and it did little good as the horse had already bolted.
Had the stable door been closed before anyone infected came to UK it would be a different case, but that time is long gone.

That's literally not true AFAICT. The comparative numbers bear out the success of China's strategy https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries and http://nrg.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mjh/covid19/ for example.

At least for now, time will tell, but time will also tell with the UK strategy.

As I am not saying it is the best plan, just that it seems to be misunderstood and seen as 'abandoning' people to just get on with it and die. That is not the case. It is a slightly more long term option than lock everyone in until it goes away, then they all get it next time. It may be a complete fail, but we will not know until the future.

What I was stressing was that it is not an inhuman plan to just let it take its course.

BTW, I have a vested interest because I am in the highest risk groups.

I Hope not but It doesnt reduce the spread of the virus on all the population thus increasing the risk also to the more sensible group

[Tommy Cookers]

Britain's plans on coronavirus are going to destroy any plans of F1 continuing with the season...and any plans of EU and the rest of the world itself of reducing the infections! After all the most of the teams are based in UK so i don't see how they'll not get affected by that!
The rest of the world must ban anyone traveling from the UK right now...but that also means banning F1 teams from racing! It's sad that a country takes a decision as if they are alone in this planet...and what a decision that is! It might have huge implications everywhere if it get's out of control...and it will indeed get out of control!
Hopefully they'll change their plans in the coming weeks because otherwise i don't know what's coming ahead...

the (so-called) plans will change from Tuesday

btw we have 5000 ventilators
they are made in Switzerland, Germany, and the USA - but not in the UK

[hollus]

Keep in mind that the hospitals might be overwhelmed right now, as they only have so many isolation beds, so many respirators and (not) so many masks. But as we speak they are preparing more beds and more locations, and masks and respirators are being produced as full speed. Also, medicine students are being readied for service, the armies are getting also involved, with all their medical personnel... In 2-3 months, the hospitals will have the capacity to deal with a lot more cases, many times more cases. Just not right now.

[bill shoe]

Formula 1 is still -->STILL<-- being half-assed and vague with race postponements and/or cancellations! Days after Chase Carey came out and mumbled things to the media about how he handled the Australian situation well and everyone else just didn't understand!

The Dutch GP promoter has heard public statements from Formula 1 that seem to indicate their race is not taking place, but no basic contractual clarity from Formula 1 regarding whether the race is off. No direct communication. Nada.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14867 ... ace-future

[the EDGE]

Option 1 and i am smartworking. Plants are open. Just assemblement are forbidden for non work reason

The surly the virus will continue to spread, seeing as it’s contagious before symptoms show?

Reduced interaction Is intended to slow It Down as opposed to free interaction and f@ck the elders

But for how long can whole countries be quarantined before businesses go under and people up & down the country cannot afford food & rent/mortgages and social unrest causes as much damage as the virus it’s self

Bear in mind there has only been a total of 35 deaths in the U.K. 35 too many, but still a very low number

I haven’t socialised in over a week, the streets are empty all on their own, our government hasn’t had to tell us not to go out.

Old people shouldn’t go out, they know this, and soon we are told laws will be passed to prevent them from doing so and that is how we intend to protect society from what I understand

I’m not sure what people are being told about how the U.K. is handling the situation and we are under no illusions as to how bad covid-19 is and how bad it will become but at the moment the situation is not as bad as on the continent and that is why we are still free to go about our business for now

[mmred]

The surly the virus will continue to spread, seeing as it’s contagious before symptoms show?

Reduced interaction Is intended to slow It Down as opposed to free interaction and f@ck the elders

But for how long can whole countries be quarantined before businesses go under and people up & down the country cannot afford food & rent/mortgages and social unrest causes as much damage as the virus it’s self

Bear in mind there has only been a total of 35 deaths in the U.K. 35 too many, but still a very low number

I haven’t socialised in over a week, the streets are empty all on their own, our government hasn’t had to tell us not to go out.

Old people shouldn’t go out, they know this, and soon we are told laws will be passed to prevent them from doing so and that is how we intend to protect society from what I understand

I’m not sure what people are being told about how the U.K. is handling the situation and we are under no illusions as to how bad covid-19 is and how bad it will become but at the moment the situation is not as bad as on the continent and that is why we are still free to go about our business for now

Essential business are open here too. It s a matter of choice, propagation vs business. And you cant protect a group alone very effictevely

[LM10]

368 new deaths and 3590 new cases in Italy today, 252 in Lombardy alone. Point of no return in ICU capacity reached. That's what will happen with all other countries without very strict and immediate measurements, I'm highly afraid and sad to tell.

[nzjrs]

I’m not sure what people are being told about how the U.K. is handling the situation and we are under no illusions as to how bad covid-19 is and how bad it will become but at the moment the situation is not as bad as on the continent and that is why we are still free to go about our business for now

(normal) people are responding with shock at the UK's actions they appear to show a weird disconnect between the future "how bad it will become" and the present "for now".

(many) scientists are reacting with shock at the UK's strategy because it's a large gamble against the part of the pandemic that is as of now least known (herd immunity)

BTW: I've also got a horse in this race, but I remain objective, I think. I'm stuck in the UK now, having made my UK preparations 2 weeks ago when I was in central europe, saw the numbers, and saw people behaving like the UK is now. Having family in both countries but coming from neither makes for an interesting comparison.

[nzjrs]

368 new deaths and 3590 new cases in Italy today, 252 in Lombardy alone. Point of no return in ICU capacity reached. That's what will happen with all other countries without very strict and immediate measurements, I'm highly afraid and sad to tell.

Agree. I'm preparing contingency plans to to flee UK (if allowable and wise) if/when they become overwhelmed in ~2 weeks time. By them some of the aggressive steps taken by the other central European countries should hopefully had the modeled effect and their health systems might be holding up better. Or not. Plan is subject to revision.

[FrukostScones]

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