COVID-19 could affect more races this year.

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Big Tea wrote:
11 Apr 2020, 16:28
I mean the 'risk' of a single person getting it and buggering up the complete system more than risk to individuals.

I suppose the most practical way of doing it would be to create a team from people who have already had the virus, then it would 'just' be a matter of them not spreading it.
Oh i see, yes herd immunity, would be ideal wouldn't it, if they can test for the antibodies yet? Not sure. And then if there are enough people who've had it

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Take from this what you will based on the source: https://science.slashdot.org/story/20/0 ... in-germany

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These guys and girls are no average factory employee. They live F1. I am convinced they would love to go, if F1 could start with some strictions.

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izzy wrote:
11 Apr 2020, 16:49
Just_a_fan wrote:
11 Apr 2020, 16:23
Exactly. It's selfish, basically.
Seriously. That's a morally bankrupt invention, trying to fake moral superiority to score a winnnn after running out of reasoned argument. If F1 runs it'll be because that's what they do, for a living. People work in an organisation and
participate in what the organisation does. Nobody here has any power over the poor things, any more than we 'ask drivers to risk their lives for our amusement', we should be able to debate the pros and cons of what Ross said without this veiled personal crap :thumbsdown:
I think it's selfish. That's my opinion.

I know people that have worked in F1. It's already seriously high-pressure environment at the best of times and quite frankly the idea of Brawn saying to the teams "m'eh, we need to make some money so get out there and never mind the personal costs to your personnel" is, as I've stated, in my opinion selfish.
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3jawchuck wrote:
11 Apr 2020, 17:13
Take from this what you will based on the source: https://science.slashdot.org/story/20/0 ... in-germany
This is a reposting of the MIT technology article which, strictly speaking, shows that 14% have detectable antibodies from which the original German report described them as immune.

To my knowledge, the presumption that; if a person has been infected and recovered and still has the antibodies in their system then they are functionally immune, has not yet been well demonstrated for ncov19.

There are studies finding in both directions. Hopefully this becomes clearer soon.

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A bit more meat for the antibody story. Read the whole thread and a few of the educated comments linking studies.



And the following thread re Slashdot article above


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There is also much debate as to how accurate the tests themselves are. Not only if there was a technical 'miss' when testing but also at which stage the test was done. too soon and it is worthless, a false hit and someone thinks they are immune and they may not be
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.

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Why is the UK not reporting deaths outside hospitals? Is it because the number is insignificantly small?

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as I've stated, in my opinion selfish.
Yes it's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But people are entitled to disagree with it as well. :wink:
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FW17 wrote:
11 Apr 2020, 19:04
Why is the UK not reporting deaths outside hospitals? Is it because the number is insignificantly small?
I don’t think it’s small. It’s because there is a different process with a considerable lag. The ONS reported consolidated figures for week ending March 27 last week, end of 13 week quarter. The lag is a week to ten days. I don’t know when it will report next. At the end of their report there is a comparison chart for their figures and the government, hospital, figures.

The comparison is figure 1 in this report. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulatio ... ek-1-to-13
Discussed in the following paragraphs. There is a very significant difference by the end of the quarter.
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👍 thanks

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Just_a_fan wrote:
11 Apr 2020, 17:22
I think it's selfish. That's my opinion.

I know people that have worked in F1. It's already seriously high-pressure environment at the best of times and quite frankly the idea of Brawn saying to the teams "m'eh, we need to make some money so get out there and never mind the personal costs to your personnel" is, as I've stated, in my opinion selfish.
Well the post you were agreeing with was talking about 'some here' not Ross Brawn

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/early-an ... eport-says

30-50% tested have antibodies in Chicago.

Looking like it's been here a while, and now they are taking about all of those Vaping deaths from a few months ago might not have been just from vaping.

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strad wrote:
11 Apr 2020, 19:07
as I've stated, in my opinion selfish.
Yes it's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But people are entitled to disagree with it as well. :wink:
Yes they are. It would be nice hear some counter arguments but hey ho. :wink:
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Just_a_fan wrote:
11 Apr 2020, 20:38
Yes they are. It would be nice hear some counter arguments but hey ho. :wink:
oh really :lol: last time you didn't address the counter arguments but let's make a fresh start then: Ross Brawn:
We could have a very closed environment where teams come in on charter [planes], we channel them into the circuit, we make sure everyone's tested, cleared, there's no risk to everyone and we have a race without spectators.

"That's not great, but I think it's still better than no racing at all."

Brawn added F1 races would help "keep the sport alive" while also giving millions of fans at home a "huge boost", but was also adamant nobody would be put at risk by starting the championship.
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... on-vodcast

now if you have some evidence people would be victimised by this then let's have it. Evidence, not conjecture. i have a memory you were in favour of doing races at Silverstone at one point, but perhaps that was with someone saying they shouldn't instead of they should? :wink: