COVID-19 could affect more races this year.

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AngusF1 wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 07:14
Australia and New Zealand are both showing great prospects of reducing the virus to negligible levels, at best maybe even eradicating it. To illustrate the point, the small city where I'm living in America right now has more confirmed cases than most Australian states!
Yes, but the core point on everything we know about the virus is:
- Limit international travelling
- Limit big events with more than 100 people

Both points are absolutely necessary for a F1 race, you need about 1000 people from 20 countries just to host the race without spectators.

I still have Singapore on my list for this year....but I am 99% sure I can not go there, neither see a race there.
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Another Idea. Test and quarantine every one BEFORE they travel. That right, after they are tested two days before traveling, they are quarantined from getting in contact with anyone and there belongings are zapped with X-rays for sanitation. This includes the pilot too. Then we have assurance that the people coming in are not vectors for the virus. No pit pass for guests unless they also adhere to a test and quarantine programme. The spectators, if allowed, must wear masks and be socially distanced.
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Judging by the data, the only country on the existing calendar in any position to hold a race in the immediate future is China. South Korea would be another option, but I'd consider that unlikely.

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SEOUL - While coronavirus appears to have peaked in South Korea, health experts are concerned about 116 patients who were already cured and have now tested positive again. Research must show whether they have been infected for a second time,
or that the virus that was still in their body has somehow been reactivated.
2nd wave incoming??

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Capharol wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 18:15
SEOUL - While coronavirus appears to have peaked in South Korea, health experts are concerned about 116 patients who were already cured and have now tested positive again. Research must show whether they have been infected for a second time,
or that the virus that was still in their body has somehow been reactivated.
2nd wave incoming??
this is the thing isn't it. Nobody's beaten covid-19 yet, it'll keep spreading again whenever it gets the chance, until there's a vaccine

so i don't see any races with a crowd this year, i hope Liberty get their heads round this and plan for lots of closed doors races, instead of waiting hopefully for normal ones

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Fulcrum wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 16:48
Judging by the data, the only country on the existing calendar in any position to hold a race in the immediate future is China. South Korea would be another option, but I'd consider that unlikely.
Spain an option too now

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I think right now Spain is the canary in the coal mine. Lotta people watching to see how it goes.
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Capharol wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 18:15
SEOUL - While coronavirus appears to have peaked in South Korea, health experts are concerned about 116 patients who were already cured and have now tested positive again. Research must show whether they have been infected for a second time,
or that the virus that was still in their body has somehow been reactivated.
2nd wave incoming??
Reanimated zombies, world war Z started in korea!!!

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Capharol wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 18:15
SEOUL - While coronavirus appears to have peaked in South Korea, health experts are concerned about 116 patients who were already cured and have now tested positive again. Research must show whether they have been infected for a second time,
or that the virus that was still in their body has somehow been reactivated.
2nd wave incoming??
If first one cured then why they chase second? Let it in it's normal life.

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izzy wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 19:03
Capharol wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 18:15
SEOUL - While coronavirus appears to have peaked in South Korea, health experts are concerned about 116 patients who were already cured and have now tested positive again. Research must show whether they have been infected for a second time,
or that the virus that was still in their body has somehow been reactivated.
2nd wave incoming??
this is the thing isn't it. Nobody's beaten covid-19 yet, it'll keep spreading again whenever it gets the chance, until there's a vaccine

so i don't see any races with a crowd this year, i hope Liberty get their heads round this and plan for lots of closed doors races, instead of waiting hopefully for normal ones
i am really doubting that we see 1 race at all
ENGINE TUNER wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 20:55
Reanimated zombies, world war Z started in korea!!!
LOOOOOOL
etusch wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 21:06
If first one cured then why they chase second? Let it in it's normal life.
maybe they got ill again and they tested them but as already writen, they aren't 100% sure if they had it already or the got infected again ....

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Capharol wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 23:07
izzy wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 19:03
Capharol wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 18:15


2nd wave incoming??
this is the thing isn't it. Nobody's beaten covid-19 yet, it'll keep spreading again whenever it gets the chance, until there's a vaccine

so i don't see any races with a crowd this year, i hope Liberty get their heads round this and plan for lots of closed doors races, instead of waiting hopefully for normal ones
i am really doubting that we see 1 race at all
ENGINE TUNER wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 20:55
Reanimated zombies, world war Z started in korea!!!
LOOOOOOL
etusch wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 21:06
If first one cured then why they chase second? Let it in it's normal life.
maybe they got ill again and they tested them but as already writen, they aren't 100% sure if they had it already or the got infected again ....
I think the important parts of W.H.O report on this are -

Jeong Eun-kyeong, director of the Korea Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, told a briefing that the virus may have been "reactivated" rather than the patients being re-infected.

"We are aware that some patients are PCR positive after they clinically recover, but we need systematic collection of samples from recovered patients to better understand how long they shed live virus," it said.

So it seems the jury is still out, but not looking as bad as some reports have us believe.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/414091 ... reinfected
I post a full link but I have no idea of the quality of this site, it came up in response to a search
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Capharol wrote:
14 Apr 2020, 23:07
i am really doubting that we see 1 race at all

maybe they got ill again and they tested them but as already writen, they aren't 100% sure if they had it already or the got infected again ....
there seems to be a lot of doubt about the tests doesn't there, false positives and negatives for the pcr tests and antibody tests, but in any case lockdown can't carry on forever because it's making more people die of other things, apart from ruining the economy

so who knows but i'm thinking that lockdown will get relaxed and when it does it'll be allowed for F1 teams and camera crews and marshalls and everyone to gather together in a closed environment, after being tested, and when it's allowed that's what F1 will do

and yes as @Big Tea says the reinfection thing is quite doubtful possibly, personally i think it's unlikely we don't develop antibodies as that is how we recover in the first place

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This virus could be the end of the human race unless we can eradicate it.
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A virologist (Drosten) here thinks that the "reinfections" are just people that still haven't fought off the virus completely and had gotten 'false' negatives because of the limited sample size you get with the swab - he used the analogy of blindly grabbing some water from a small kiddie pool filled with fish, when the water is swarming with fish you'll always have fish in your bucket, once there's less fish you might not get any and could conclude that there's no more fish, but if you were to look into the pool you would see that there's still some fish. Same with the virus, a random swab might not have enough viral load to get a positive result in the test but another one later would give a positive result.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
15 Apr 2020, 00:16
This virus could be the end of the human race unless we can eradicate it.
Im OK with opinions, but this is a bit panic inducing and dangerous.