The Sky panels Top 5 drivers.

[Wass85]

Just read one of the greats has just passed away, RIP Stirling Moss.

[3jawchuck]

Yes of course it does but you think the teams just decided to put all their eggs in one basket without good reason?
Schumacher was clearly head and shoulders above his teammates so unless you have the luxury of letting your teammates race it out for the title, backing the fastest driver is just common sense.
Oh I agree, Alonso handled the situation terribly and it's on him but don't you agree that a driver at war with the team wouldn't be getting any help from them? You also don't think this will interfere with how a driver performs?
Alonso running away from the fight definitely mars his legacy in the sport.
I just don't think you can use Fangio as an example of what an older driver should do in this day and age.
Serious question. Do you think Hamilton would beat a prime Rosberg, aged 40 years old after having a 3 year hiatus?

You keep posting empty replies to your own posts.

[Wass85]

You keep posting empty replies to your own posts.

Because nobody will attempt to answer them.

[NathanOlder]

Here's an interesting look on things, nearly everyone will say Hamilton always had a good car, no one seems to say that about Schumacher. why?

Starting with Hamiltons 2009 season, his team mate only managed 3 top 5 finishes, yet Lewis was able to win multiple races.

Schumachers worst car or cars have never had lesser results from another driver in the team who had a full season next in the car. Even the 7up Jordan in De Cesaris hands managed 3 top 5 places. 1996 Ferrari had 4 top 5 in Irvines hands. So its not like Schumacher ever had a bad car looking at it this way.

[Dr. Acula]

Here's an interesting look on things, nearly everyone will say Hamilton always had a good car, no one seems to say that about Schumacher. why?

Starting with Hamiltons 2009 season, his team mate only managed 3 top 5 finishes, yet Lewis was able to win multiple races.

Schumachers worst car or cars have never had lesser results from another driver in the team who had a full season next in the car. Even the 7up Jordan in De Cesaris hands managed 3 top 5 places. 1996 Ferrari had 4 top 5 in Irvines hands. So its not like Schumacher ever had a bad car looking at it this way.

Yes, but remember back then, it wasn't unusual that half the field retired. In the end Irvine only managed to get 10th place in the championship with scoring points in only 4 races. Schumacher won 3 races in the same car. Also to this day Irvine says about the 96 Ferrari, that it drove like a brick and was overall the second worst F1 car he ever drove.

[Wass85]

Didn't Schumacher also say he would have won the 95 title easier in that years Ferrari?

[PlatinumZealot]

It has its flaws too, of course. It assumes that a driver doesn't develop/improve/get worse over time, for example. One might look at Barrichello, for example. He drove with Schuie for a number of years and didn't do well compared to him.

The bolded part was added to the model. Yes it is some sort of sliding scale, or function he can change at will, but he has assured the reader that these factors are based on observations. It is noted too, that even with the adjustments it still does not position Rosberg above Schumi, so you need not worry too much about your driver deterioration concerns in his model. I too still think some parts could be better, but is the best driver model anyone has made so far.

[NathanOlder]

Here's an interesting look on things, nearly everyone will say Hamilton always had a good car, no one seems to say that about Schumacher. why?

Starting with Hamiltons 2009 season, his team mate only managed 3 top 5 finishes, yet Lewis was able to win multiple races.

Schumachers worst car or cars have never had lesser results from another driver in the team who had a full season next in the car. Even the 7up Jordan in De Cesaris hands managed 3 top 5 places. 1996 Ferrari had 4 top 5 in Irvines hands. So its not like Schumacher ever had a bad car looking at it this way.

Yes, but remember back then, it wasn't unusual that half the field retired. In the end Irvine only managed to get 10th place in the championship with scoring points in only 4 races. Schumacher won 3 races in the same car. Also to this day Irvine says about the 96 Ferrari, that it drove like a brick and was overall the second worst F1 car he ever drove.

Kovalainen only managed 12th in 09 and Hamilton won races in the same car, so very similar.

[Wass85]

Here's an interesting look on things, nearly everyone will say Hamilton always had a good car, no one seems to say that about Schumacher. why?

Starting with Hamiltons 2009 season, his team mate only managed 3 top 5 finishes, yet Lewis was able to win multiple races.

Schumachers worst car or cars have never had lesser results from another driver in the team who had a full season next in the car. Even the 7up Jordan in De Cesaris hands managed 3 top 5 places. 1996 Ferrari had 4 top 5 in Irvines hands. So its not like Schumacher ever had a bad car looking at it this way.

Yes, but remember back then, it wasn't unusual that half the field retired. In the end Irvine only managed to get 10th place in the championship with scoring points in only 4 races. Schumacher won 3 races in the same car. Also to this day Irvine says about the 96 Ferrari, that it drove like a brick and was overall the second worst F1 car he ever drove.

Kovalainen only managed 12th in 09 and Hamilton won races in the same car, so very similar.

When you retire almost 3 times as much as your teammate in the year then it makes the gap even larger.

[Just_a_fan]

Yes, but remember back then, it wasn't unusual that half the field retired. In the end Irvine only managed to get 10th place in the championship with scoring points in only 4 races. Schumacher won 3 races in the same car. Also to this day Irvine says about the 96 Ferrari, that it drove like a brick and was overall the second worst F1 car he ever drove.

Kovalainen only managed 12th in 09 and Hamilton won races in the same car, so very similar.

When you retire almost 3 times as much as your teammate in the year then it makes the gap even larger.

Kovaleinen in 2009 - Collision, Spun off alone, Gearbox failure, Crashed alone, Collision
Hamilton in 2009 - Collision, Brake failure

They both had one mechanical issue, the rest were driver related. Sure, some were down to other drivers e.g. Hamilton was hit by Alguersuari when Hamilton backed off to avoid an incident ahead at Spa, Kovaleinen was hit by Bourdais in Silverstone, but Kovaleinen lost it twice on his own too.

[ENGINE TUNER]

Kovalainen only managed 12th in 09 and Hamilton won races in the same car, so very similar.

When you retire almost 3 times as much as your teammate in the year then it makes the gap even larger.

Kovaleinen in 2009 - Collision, Spun off alone, Gearbox failure, Crashed alone, Collision
Hamilton in 2009 - Collision, Brake failure

They both had one mechanical issue, the rest were driver related. Sure, some were down to other drivers e.g. Hamilton was hit by Alguersuari when Hamilton backed off to avoid an incident ahead at Spa, Kovaleinen was hit by Bourdais in Silverstone, but Kovaleinen lost it twice on his own too.

Webber bounced off barrichello and cut down HAMs tire at the nurburgring. HAM dqd from a podium in Australia because Dave Ryan made him lie to the stewards, an unprecedented disqualification for an off track infringement.