COVID-19 could affect more races this year.

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They have many more

The short one used 1986 to 1990
The current long configuration an
The fast one means the fast version at verriere instead of the slow one today and no chichane on the mistral. And so on

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toraabe wrote:
18 Apr 2020, 14:39
They have many more

The short one used 1986 to 1990
The current long configuration an
The fast one means the fast version at verriere instead of the slow one today and no chichane on the mistral. And so on
Are you talking about the Paul Ricard circuit? The circuit themselves say otherwise if you look at their site and what they list as tracks available.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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Didn't stay locked very long. :wink:
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18 Apr 2020, 09:01
This topic has been infected with nacional politics. One gets afraid that the whole site could get infected, the I heard that politics are highly contagious.

Seriously people, if you come to F1T, leave the politics at home. It is a simple rule.

I am locking the thread it until it has been disinfected of politics.


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Just_a_fan wrote:
18 Apr 2020, 16:56
toraabe wrote:
18 Apr 2020, 14:39
They have many more

The short one used 1986 to 1990
The current long configuration an
The fast one means the fast version at verriere instead of the slow one today and no chichane on the mistral. And so on
Are you talking about the Paul Ricard circuit? The circuit themselves say otherwise if you look at their site and what they list as tracks available.
https://www.circuitpaulricard.com/en/pa ... acilities/


Enough opportunities

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toraabe wrote:
18 Apr 2020, 20:44
https://www.circuitpaulricard.com/en/pa ... acilities/

Enough opportunities
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toraabe wrote:
18 Apr 2020, 20:44
Just_a_fan wrote:
18 Apr 2020, 16:56
toraabe wrote:
18 Apr 2020, 14:39
They have many more

The short one used 1986 to 1990
The current long configuration an
The fast one means the fast version at verriere instead of the slow one today and no chichane on the mistral. And so on
Are you talking about the Paul Ricard circuit? The circuit themselves say otherwise if you look at their site and what they list as tracks available.
https://www.circuitpaulricard.com/en/pa ... acilities/


Enough opportunities
They say themselves that they have 3 major layouts and two of those are teaching circuits.

Really, are you going to repeat this like you did the "ground effect" stuff?
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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All of the European races are cancelled...except for Hungary maybe which seems to have a very low number of cases! So Hungary might be the only EU race that goes ahead as planned...that is if the teams are allowed to travel of course! Austria also maybe?

My opinion is that the only way of starting the season in the summer (June-July, if things get better of course) is by racing in Australia, China or Bahrain where the number of cases has slowed down! Since the European races have been cancelled i don't see where they can be relocated in the calendar if the fly away races from September onwards do go ahead! The only EU race i want to see is Zandvoort...but i don't see it happening even in August! France, Spain, Italy and UK are all out of the question...no way we'll race there in 2020!

Another question is: which countries are suitable for racing in December-January in terms of climate?? Australia, Brazil and the Emirates maybe? Surely not Europe!
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turbof1 wrote:
17 Apr 2020, 19:26
Media likes to use eye-catching titles, likes to use sensational bits. Even in my country one main news outlet kept posting about how Belgium is doing so badly in the rankings (in a paid article no less), but when you dig a bit beyond the sausy title, they are talking about deaths per million, which is an arbitrarily number, not to mention each country decides on their own who joins the statistics and who doesn't. I'm not going to claim Belgium didn't make errors; they really did: no strategic stock of medical gear, not early enough restrictions from Italy, not enough care for the elderly homes,... . But, at the same time I'd claim we are doing equally well as France and the Netherlands, a bit less then Germany and way better than Great Britain (not even to mention Spain and Italy).

Second issue is that there's a lot hysteria going on, with humanity knowing little about the virus. That is further compounded by mass misinformation on social media (remember the 10s hold your breath test?).

It is best everybody stays calm, collected and rational. That includes experts and government; lockdowns can only be lifted very gradually, economic losses have to be accepted if the goal is to save lifes. We need to buy enough time to get to a situation where a combination of immunity (either through recovering from infection or vaccination) and the virus dying out. In the meanwhile we'll learn about this virus and weed out the misinformation.
The last thing we need now is mass hysteria, but mainstream media will not help with preventing panic, sadly. They've always liked sensational/eye-catching titles and articles, as you told.
I can remember the 10s hold your breath test. There even were politicians posting that on their twitter and then deleting it once it came out that it was bs.

I agree with your last paragraph.

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AMG.Tzan wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 02:27
All of the European races are cancelled...except for Hungary maybe which seems to have a very low number of cases! So Hungary might be the only EU race that goes ahead as planned...that is if the teams are allowed to travel of course! Austria also maybe?

My opinion is that the only way of starting the season in the summer (June-July, if things get better of course) is by racing in Australia, China or Bahrain where the number of cases has slowed down! Since the European races have been cancelled i don't see where they can be relocated in the calendar if the fly away races from September onwards do go ahead! The only EU race i want to see is Zandvoort...but i don't see it happening even in August! France, Spain, Italy and UK are all out of the question...no way we'll race there in 2020!

Another question is: which countries are suitable for racing in December-January in terms of climate?? Australia, Brazil and the Emirates maybe? Surely not Europe!
You know, a good "trick" to have low number of cases is to have low number of tests. Hungary have not tested much at all. To have an indirect image of the situation, it's an option to look at death numbers. If a country has many deaths, it means that the number of cases might actually be much higher than officially reported. Hungary has a case fatality rate of 10%. That's in the ballpark of Spain. Another example is Sweden. They've not taken any measures at all, but have less than 14 thousand reported cases. At the same time they have more than 1500 deaths, a CFR of 11%. One can assume that more tests would mean many more cases.

I know that there are much more factors which need to be taken into consideration. What I wanted to tell is that it surely isn't enough to simply look at reported cases and then tell if that particular country is the most ideal one to go race in.

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AMG.Tzan wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 02:27
All of the European races are cancelled...except for Hungary maybe which seems to have a very low number of cases! So Hungary might be the only EU race that goes ahead as planned...that is if the teams are allowed to travel of course! Austria also maybe?

My opinion is that the only way of starting the season in the summer (June-July, if things get better of course) is by racing in Australia, China or Bahrain where the number of cases has slowed down! Since the European races have been cancelled i don't see where they can be relocated in the calendar if the fly away races from September onwards do go ahead! The only EU race i want to see is Zandvoort...but i don't see it happening even in August! France, Spain, Italy and UK are all out of the question...no way we'll race there in 2020!

Another question is: which countries are suitable for racing in December-January in terms of climate?? Australia, Brazil and the Emirates maybe? Surely not Europe!
It must be only the tickets that are cancelled, and with no crowd that also means 10-15 degrees is fine, around the Med in December. We might get more wet races!

It won't be any street tracks tho, only fenced ones they can lock down. Hopefully including Zandvoort, once the boss there accepts the situation

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AMG.Tzan wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 02:27

My opinion is that the only way of starting the season in the summer (June-July, if things get better of course) is by racing in Australia, China or Bahrain where the number of cases has slowed down!
As has been raised previously - why would countries that have got over the virus want to allow in people who are coming from places that might still have it? Answer: they won't.

If racing is going to happen to start with, it will be in Europe.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 10:28
AMG.Tzan wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 02:27

My opinion is that the only way of starting the season in the summer (June-July, if things get better of course) is by racing in Australia, China or Bahrain where the number of cases has slowed down!
As has been raised previously - why would countries that have got over the virus want to allow in people who are coming from places that might still have it? Answer: they won't.

If racing is going to happen to start with, it will be in Europe.
Isn't the current, most probable version to start the season with Austria in July (without spectators)? That's what I heard last.

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LM10 wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 11:06
Just_a_fan wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 10:28
AMG.Tzan wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 02:27

My opinion is that the only way of starting the season in the summer (June-July, if things get better of course) is by racing in Australia, China or Bahrain where the number of cases has slowed down!
As has been raised previously - why would countries that have got over the virus want to allow in people who are coming from places that might still have it? Answer: they won't.

If racing is going to happen to start with, it will be in Europe.
Isn't the current, most probable version to start the season with Austria in July (without spectators)? That's what I heard last.
Austria's Vice-Chancellor said he wouldn't oppose it. Marko said the Government, FOM and Red Bull Ring want the GP to take place.

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LM10 wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 11:06
Just_a_fan wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 10:28
AMG.Tzan wrote:
19 Apr 2020, 02:27

My opinion is that the only way of starting the season in the summer (June-July, if things get better of course) is by racing in Australia, China or Bahrain where the number of cases has slowed down!
As has been raised previously - why would countries that have got over the virus want to allow in people who are coming from places that might still have it? Answer: they won't.

If racing is going to happen to start with, it will be in Europe.
Isn't the current, most probable version to start the season with Austria in July (without spectators)? That's what I heard last.
That is one of the options being looked at, along with a race (or even two) at Silverstone.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.