COVID-19 could affect more races this year.

[izzy]

I just realised today ~0.1% of New York City has died of COVID. Put another way, ~1 out of 1000 people in NYC has died of COVID.

someone, i think Jean, said there needs to be a certain mood before people will accept a fun activity like F1, even with no crowd, and i suppose he's right, now you point out this stat

[Big Tea]

I just realised today ~0.1% of New York City has died of COVID. Put another way, ~1 out of 1000 people in NYC has died of COVID.

Terrifying when you look at it that way.

[henry]

I just realised today ~0.1% of New York City has died of COVID. Put another way, ~1 out of 1000 people in NYC has died of COVID.

Sadly it’s approaching 0.1% of New York State, population 20million. I don’t think NYC is reported separately, but with a much higher population density for its 10 million inhabitants than the rest of the state I would expect NYC to be higher than 0.1%. And like almost all reporting agencies this will be an underestimate not including those outside of hospitals and other medical establishments. This shows that when it takes hold the virus is extremely dangerous and measures to relax social distancing in the future will need to be very carefully monitored so that we can lock down again if there are flare ups c

[bauc]

I just realised today ~0.1% of New York City has died of COVID. Put another way, ~1 out of 1000 people in NYC has died of COVID.

Sadly it’s approaching 0.1% of New York State, population 20million. I don’t think NYC is reported separately, but with a much higher population density for its 10 million inhabitants than the rest of the state I would expect NYC to be higher than 0.1%. And like almost all reporting agencies this will be an underestimate not including those outside of hospitals and other medical establishments. This shows that when it takes hold the virus is extremely dangerous and measures to relax social distancing in the future will need to be very carefully monitored so that we can lock down again if there are flare ups c

This is a subject of debate, WHO is yet to clarify which death it to be exactly contributed to COVID-19 so I would take this numbers with a grain of salt.... When you have health issues, when you are chronically ill for years, a seasonal flue or a cold can cause your entire immunity to crash and then unfortunately you can die as a result of the same since your body can not longer fight...

I want to know (if possible) how many healthy men have passed away due to COVID-19, how many people have died who previously had no bad health history....

[PlatinumZealot]

China revised its numbers and about 1200 additional deaths were added. USA and other countries will revise as soon as things settle down a bit. What we do now is that current numbers are a bit of an understatement.


Hmm. I was looking at the recory rates of different countries to get some idea of the combination of virulence and level of treatment. It seems certainly that countries like Germany and China are good place to get hospitalized if you have Covid-19. Both countries had moderate recovery rates during the early spread of the virus, then therafter either the level of virulence has gone down or the doctors got better at treating the paitients. They have recovery rates above 90%!!

Most other countries flounder in the sixites region. Means good luck if you are ever hsopitalized for Covid-19 in those countries!

[e30ernest]

Most other countries flounder in the sixites region. Means good luck if you are ever hsopitalized for Covid-19 in those countries!

I think that's because those countries could also be lacking in testing, meaning they only test the worst cases (hence the high death ratio).

[strad]

death rate per 100,000
U.S.11.24
Germany 5.25
U.K. 21.97
Belgium 45.20
Spain 42.81
Italy 37.64
Can this still be skewed by the population density?

[sosic2121]

I heard that in UK number of dead is actually 50% higher than official number.

I feel that higher mortality comes from number of tests, government failure to react properly, population average health, population behaviour, hospitals being overwhelmed in some extreme cases.

Also, during this period I have changed my view of the virus. IMO I believe
quantity of the virus one is exposed to matters a lot. Number of infected is much much higher than official numbers, and about 50% of them have no symptoms!

My country has been hit very lightly hit and it seems worst has passed(1.8k infected, 47 dead, less than 50 new cases each day), so government decided to ease the measures. Now we will see what will happen next

[henry]

death rate per 100,000
U.S.11.24
Germany 5.25
U.K. 21.97
Belgium 45.20
Spain 42.81
Italy 37.64
Can this still be skewed by the population density?

I think population density for an entity, country in the example you’re citing, is only really relevant if it is a good proxy for the degree of association between its population. A better proxy might be the proportion of the population that lives in urban areas. Even then, as soon as measures are taken to disconnect areas of population the metric would fail.

Here’s an article about the use of connection measures as a way of controlling the re-opening of economies.

https://theconversation.com/green-zone ... own-136002

[FW17]

I just realised today ~0.1% of New York City has died of COVID. Put another way, ~1 out of 1000 people in NYC has died of COVID.

Terrifying when you look at it that way.

Looks worse when you look at 1 death in every 3 city blocks

[sosic2121]

death rate per 100,000
U.S.11.24 34/km²
Germany 5.25. 233
U.K. 21.97 274
Belgium 45.20 376
Spain 42.81 93
Italy 37.64 200
Can this still be skewed by the population density?

[Phil]

death rate per 100,000
U.S.11.24
Germany 5.25
U.K. 21.97
Belgium 45.20
Spain 42.81
Italy 37.64
Can this still be skewed by the population density?

Yes. I think the main problem is that; Lets say a country has a limited capacity or number of tests to complete 10'000 tests per day. That's not an awful lot and not sufficient in a one that has a very high density and the spread is higher. Sooner or later and you will be limited by the number of tests you can do. A percentage of all cases will die anyway - that's just the way it is. If you are limited by the number of tests, the fatalities will be skewed to look higher as you are not testing everyone. The result is a higher CFR.

Note that I am talking about the tests that do a swab and test for the virus - not those that test for antibodies.

[izzy]

Most other countries flounder in the sixites region. Means good luck if you are ever hsopitalized for Covid-19 in those countries!

I think that's because those countries could also be lacking in testing, meaning they only test the worst cases (hence the high death ratio).

yes there are so many ways the numbers vary, i don't think they mean anything at this point. If you have lots of hospital beds and testing you put milder cases in them and so your survival rate is higher. It might mean you're saving more or it might not. Some types of death get recorded as covid in some countries and not others, and then there are time lags, and on top of all that there's the age thing that is such a factor and multiple issues so often it's a question whether the death is really caused by covid or just hastened and by how much

obviously all the countermeasures are good, but personally i'm not comparing any countries at this point. so far as soon as someone says a certain country has better figures things seem to go bad for them

But i do think there's going to be more focus on other medical needs pretty soon, and the cost of diverting resources away from cancer and everything else

[nzjrs]

I didn't mean to necessarily kick of too much of a country comparison, the NYC numbers just surprised me honestly.

[izzy]

I didn't mean to necessarily kick of too much of a country comparison, the NYC numbers just surprised me honestly.

it's a good perspective. i find i keep lurching to and fro between one perspective and another