COVID-19 could affect more races this year.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 May 2020, 05:26
There is a potion (yes a potion!) from Africa that has proven quite effective in treating Covid-19 according to the makers of it.So effective they exported a container load...

Everybody trying everything and I don't blame them.
From Madagascar I believe. No verification whatsoever - just a claim.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 May 2020, 05:26
There is a potion (yes a potion!) from Africa that has proven quite effective in treating Covid-19 according to the makers of it.
Well, they would say that, wouldnt they? Where is the "source"? Nigeria? "Please transfer 10,000,000 $ into the account" ! :lol:

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 May 2020, 05:26
There is a potion (yes a potion!) from Africa that has proven quite effective in treating Covid-19 according to the makers of it.So effective they exported a container load...

Everybody trying everything and I don't blame them.
“CORONA MEDICINE FOUND IN MADAGASCAR. The President of Madagascar Andry Rajovelina today was busy officially launching final medicine for Corona infection. The medicine is made from natural herbal mixes that wipe out the virus at any stage within a period of six days. Madagascar is the first country to succeed in finding a cure for its people, against the pandemic,” stated one Facebook post shared more than 3,000 times.

The Malagasy Institute of Applied Research, an organization that has researched Madagascar’s traditional medicines for more than three decades, developed the drink. No ingredients! are listed on the bottle, but according to the president, the drink is derived from artemisia, a bitterroot used in some malaria drugs.

The country’s national medical academy has expressed concern over the drink.

“The scientific evidence that this is effective has not been proved. It’s likely that it could actually harm the health of the population, particularly that of children,” Marcel Razanamparany, president of Madagascar’s Academy of Medicine, said in a statement.
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3jawchuck wrote:
03 May 2020, 10:33
Wouter wrote:
03 May 2020, 10:04
Good news. We need a medicine asap . A vaccine takes too long and doesn't work 100%, maybe 25-50%.
Pharming reports encouraging results from use of RUCONEST® in COVID-19 patients
Pharming announces encouraging results from five patients with confirmed COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) infections hospitalised with related severe pneumonia that were treated with RUCONEST® (recombinant human C1 inhibitor) under a compassionate use program at the University Hospital Basel, Switzerland.
Five hospitalised patients with confirmed COVID-19 infections administered RUCONEST® under compassionate use program to treat the related severe pneumonia
Multinational, randomized controlled, investigator-initiated study with up to 150 patients planned
Four male patients and one female patient (between 53-85 years of age) with COVID-19 and suffering from related severe pneumonia, who did not improve despite standard treatment, including hydroxychloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir, were administered RUCONEST® at an initial dose of 8400 U, followed by 4200 U every 12 hours for three additional doses. No allergic reactions or drug related adverse events were reported.
Following treatment with RUCONEST®, fever resolved in four of the five patients within 48 hours, and laboratory markers of inflammation decreased significantly (CRP, IL-6). Soon thereafter, the patients were discharged from the hospital as fully recovered. One patient had increased oxygen requirement and was temporarily transferred to the ICU for intubation, but over the subsequent days recovered and was released from the ICU.
Following these initial results, a multinational, randomized, controlled, investigator-initiated clinical trial with up to 150 patients with confirmed COVID-19 infections, requiring hospitalisation due to significant COVID-19 related symptoms is planned. The study will be led by Dr. Michael Osthoff, University Hospital Basel, Switzerland.
Although this is an uncontrolled, small treatment experience, the results demonstrate the potential effectiveness of using RUCONEST® as an anti-inflammatory approach to inhibit the complement and contact systems after SARS-CoV-2 infection.
- Dr Michael Osthoff, University of Basel
https://www.pharming.com/nl/node/185
There's also somewhat promising results with Remdesivir and Favipiravir.

Many vaccines in development and at an unprecedented rate: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05 ... al-trials/
There is of course a risk that fast tracking any vaccine could lead to unpleasant unintended consequences.

With RUCONEST, watch out if you have an allergy to rabbits :)
"Contraindications: Known or suspected allergy to rabbits or rabbit-derived products. Known hypersensitivity to any of the components of the product."
If I'm reading that correctly, that drug is being used to treat COVID-19 related pneumonia, not the actual virus itself.
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tok-tokkie wrote:
04 May 2020, 11:53
PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 May 2020, 05:26
There is a potion (yes a potion!) from Africa that has proven quite effective in treating Covid-19 according to the makers of it.So effective they exported a container load...

Everybody trying everything and I don't blame them.
From Madagascar I believe. No verification whatsoever - just a claim.
I recall my sister-in-law, a strict vegan, showing me 'evidence' of a tribe there who eat no meat and had no cancer at all. Turns out most had died by their mid 30's, which is why. it is easy to fine evidence of miracle cures if we only look at one result
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Wouter wrote:
04 May 2020, 13:05
PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 May 2020, 05:26
There is a potion (yes a potion!) from Africa that has proven quite effective in treating Covid-19 according to the makers of it.So effective they exported a container load...
Everybody trying everything and I don't blame them.
“CORONA MEDICINE FOUND IN MADAGASCAR. The President of Madagascar Andry Rajovelina today was busy officially launching final medicine for Corona infection. The medicine is made from natural herbal mixes that wipe out the virus at any stage within a period of six days. Madagascar is the first country to succeed in finding a cure for its people, against the pandemic,” stated one Facebook post shared more than 3,000 times.
The Malagasy Institute of Applied Research, an organization that has researched Madagascar’s traditional medicines for more than three decades, developed the drink. No ingredients! are listed on the bottle, but according to the president, the drink is derived from artemisia, a bitterroot used in some malaria drugs.
The country’s national medical academy has expressed concern over the drink.
“The scientific evidence that this is effective has not been proved. It’s likely that it could actually harm the health of the population, particularly that of children,” Marcel Razanamparany, president of Madagascar’s Academy of Medicine, said in a statement.
It could actually work, it wouldn't be the first time. Plenty of plants and what not have medicinal properties. Of course, until it is tested, understood and researched it is just more alternative medicine mumbo-jumbo.

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Big Tea wrote:
04 May 2020, 13:57
tok-tokkie wrote:
04 May 2020, 11:53
PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 May 2020, 05:26
There is a potion (yes a potion!) from Africa that has proven quite effective in treating Covid-19 according to the makers of it.So effective they exported a container load...

Everybody trying everything and I don't blame them.
From Madagascar I believe. No verification whatsoever - just a claim.
I recall my sister-in-law, a strict vegan, showing me 'evidence' of a tribe there who eat no meat and had no cancer at all. Turns out most had died by their mid 30's, which is why. it is easy to fine evidence of miracle cures if we only look at one result
I love these sorts of examples of bad statistical reasoning (basically different flavors of selection/sampling bias). Some of my other favorites in the same vein
  • Giving British soldiers metal helmets in WW1 increased head injuries
  • Height does not correlate with performance of players in the NBA
  • In WW2 the lesson one should not up-armor bombers based on where holes were detected when the airplanes returned

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A good paper quantifying test sensitivity and antibody levels in recovered and suspect covid patients.

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So how much chance for the Dutch Spanish and French GP to be held in August/September?

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Sadly nobody can make any predictions as , so far, there is no vaccine for the virus, and nobody knows as to how much under control it will be. each country will have their own rules and regulations.

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NL_Fer wrote:
06 May 2020, 21:17
So how much chance for the Dutch Spanish and French GP to be held in August/September?
The French GP is already cancelled and won't be held this year.
Dutch GP might be possible in September, if all goes well... But I think it will be cancelled as well, as there are no festivals possible until September 1, this would be to close to that date. October is just too cold (I remember a A1 GP ten years ago that was almost freezing)

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aral wrote:
06 May 2020, 22:40
Sadly nobody can make any predictions as , so far, there is no vaccine for the virus, and nobody knows as to how much under control it will be. each country will have their own rules and regulations.
I've heard a couple of Finnish academics talking about how the virus is not spreading fast enough outside of the capital area. So maybe Finland could invite the F1 circus and host a race at Kymi circuit (grade 1). That would certainly induce some spread and be a nice send off for Kimi (surely he's on his way out soon).

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11.46 UK coronavirus live: ministers plan 14-day quarantine for arrivals as garden centres set to reopen- latest updates

Travellers into UK will be quarantined for two weeks when they arrive as part of measures to prevent a second peak, Boris Johnson is expected to say. Follow the latest updates
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... st-updates
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A GP could follow quarantine if the teams from outside UK arrive and go straight to the circuit. No different to going to an hotel for quarantine, really. Sorting out suitable accommodation will be interesting but I bet some local hotels would be happy to put them up. One team per hotel, use the same coaches for each team's transfers. It would be possible to do it. It's a political decision rather than a logistical one.
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These quarantines are only for people who do not have access to tests. If fom plans to have tests available for the traveling people, the results should be sufficient.