[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[Jolle]

It's the same as anything on the internet... More people come on to complain than to praise, and clickbait negativity gets more views.

Stop perpetuating the someone else's agenda and you'll be ridiculed far less.

Sorry, but some of us are realists as well as fans of Maclaren F1 and Maclaren cars - you, on the other hand, have constructed yourself a pair of DIY Maclaren blinkers so you can avoid seeing reality!

Is there a reason you keep calling McLaren "Maclaren"?

Anyway... McLaren is one of the companies that is more vulnerable than others because of their recent history. Because of two mayor investments (the real start of McLaren automotive and the buyout of Ron Dennis), McLaren Group has more almost more debt then it's worth. It also looks like they have no stocks they can sell and from memory, they have to refinance around 300-500 mln of debt a year (They are short term deals). As a business it doesn't really shouldn't matter if their shareholders are wealthy or not, they are also in it to make money and not as a hobby.

So, yes, I think McLaren is under real pressure. In their current form they are a young company without any reserves. Two years ago they started selling their heritage collection and the remainder is now under finance. This feels a bit like desperation. From their financial papers I couldn't make out what the status is of their real estate, if it's under finance already or not.

Lets hope for their and the workers sake sales don't plummet to much after this.

[djos]

It's the same as anything on the internet... More people come on to complain than to praise, and clickbait negativity gets more views.

Stop perpetuating the someone else's agenda and you'll be ridiculed far less.

Sorry, but some of us are realists as well as fans of Maclaren F1 and Maclaren cars - you, on the other hand, have constructed yourself a pair of DIY Maclaren blinkers so you can avoid seeing reality!

Is there a reason you keep calling McLaren "Maclaren"?

Carbon interface error on my part - apparently my phone doesn't know how to spell McLaren and I failed to notice.

EDIT: I just noticed the thread title is incorrectly capitalized (missing the capital L) - makes me happy im not the only one messing up the spelling!

[djos]

Zak is happy with the new F1 financial regs starting in 2021:

https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/05/28/mc ... nt-moment/

“F1 has been financially unsustainable for some time, and inaction would have risked the future of F1 and its participants, who are to be commended for resolving this issue collectively and determinedly.

“A uniform budget cap, in concert with more even distribution of revenue among the teams, will ensure greater competition and more people wanting to watch live and on TV, driving more sustained revenues to underpin the long-term financial health of the teams and the sport.

“Ultimately the fans win, and if the fans win, the whole sport wins too.”

Personally I think they are way overdue - this pandemic has been hell on earth for many reasons, but I'm glad F1 got some sense beaten into it as a result of the economic impacts.

[bill shoe]

Zak Brown interviewed about Indycar issues in general, including comments about the new McLaren Indycar team. I think the main purpose of this IndyCar team is to try and goose McLaren street car sales in their largest market (U.S.).

https://racer.com/2020/05/28/the-week-i ... zak-brown/

[M840TR]

Zak Brown interviewed about Indycar issues in general, including comments about the new McLaren Indycar team. I think the main purpose of this IndyCar team is to try and goose McLaren street car sales in their largest market (U.S.).

https://racer.com/2020/05/28/the-week-i ... zak-brown/

That and adjusting to the budget cap.

[Ground Effect]

I wonder if Zak will talk to Rokit

[les arcs]

I wonder if Zak will talk to Rokit

Why?

[Ground Effect]

I wonder if Zak will talk to Rokit

Why?

They cancelled the contract with Williams, but said they’re still exploring other strategic partnerships in the near future.

[les arcs]

Don't buy it. Does Rokit have a budget? I remember Kendrick from F3 in 85, lots of talk....

I wonder if Zak will talk to Rokit

Why?

They cancelled the contract with Williams, but said they’re still exploring other strategic partnerships in the near future.

[cbbcisace]

I wonder if Zak will talk to Rokit

Could happen seeing as the OnePlus deal has expired....

[adrianjordan]

Having seen the adverts on TV where Rokit leveraged the Williams F1 name, I don't think that kind of cheap image is a good fit for a premium brand like McLaren.

Plus I still wonder whether Rokit cancelled the contract or Williams did. My money is on the latter and I would question whether Rokit weren't late with payments or something like that to prompt that move.

[Vital Spark]

Does anyone know who supplies McLaren with fuel and lubricants since their split with Petrobras?


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[Ground Effect]

Having seen the adverts on TV where Rokit leveraged the Williams F1 name, I don't think that kind of cheap image is a good fit for a premium brand like McLaren.

Plus I still wonder whether Rokit cancelled the contract or Williams did. My money is on the latter and I would question whether Rokit weren't late with payments or something like that to prompt that move.

I’ve seen reports that Williams actually cancelled the deal. But it sounds like they did it to facilitate or remove any hindrance to a potential sale, since they were the title sponsor. Sorry, going more off topic,

[F1NAC]

Does anyone know who supplies McLaren with fuel and lubricants since their split with Petrobras?


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Castrol as Renault

[ScottR267]

Does anyone know who supplies McLaren with fuel and lubricants since their split with Petrobras?


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Castrol as Renault

I’d imagine this will change again next year to Petronas with the switch to Mercedes engines?