Honda F1 in trouble, and withdraw from F1

[Chaparral]

It wont be long now or so Im led to believe from a colleague in Bahrain - and it will be someone totally unexpected......

[WhiteBlue]

Willi Weber has terminated his A1GP involvement. So what is he going to do next year? He surely knows plenty of people with money to spend and usually gets them to splash it.

[xpensive]

There you go WB! And just like I suggested earlier, offer M. Schumacher to drive for the compensation of a share of the team.
Imagine that, no problems with sponsors there!

[cba_]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72738

No engine, team going down the drain now?

[axle]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72738

No engine, team going down the drain now?

There are other options...like Cosworth, don't forget the engine is a minor issue now, since they are all equalised.

[timbo]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72738

No engine, team going down the drain now?

There are other options...like Cosworth, don't forget the engine is a minor issue now, since they are all equalised.

That's true but the oher possibility is that Ferrari people are not considering chanses of Honda revival as realistic. They may have insider info thru the Ross Brawn link. I hope I'm wrong on this.

[WhiteBlue]

Michael Schumacher has finished his carreer of competitive driving in F1.

I would think that Ferrari may not be pleased by the internal manipulations at Honda F1. If Fry is allowed to continue nothing but desaster for all concerned can follow. Who wants to be involved in that?

[pipex]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72738

No engine, team going down the drain now?

There are other options...like Cosworth, don't forget the engine is a minor issue now, since they are all equalised.

Or they can use Fry as an engine, like in The Flinstones cars

[pipex]

One thing that has not been discussed before is what about the Honda KERS. In the case that another engine is found, i don't know if the KERS that Honda designed could be used with it. If the Honda KERS is mounted at the crank, the modifications that need to be done won't be trivial, possible leading to mechanical reliability problems. They have not very much time to test this hypothetical system in the bench and making the necessary modifications. Or i could be wrong about this...
This creates another question, how much is KERS linked with the stress characteristics of the engine and its electronic control?. I think that if Honda survives, they should get a engine+KERS package.

[xpensive]

In all honesty, I consider a KERS system to be one of the smallest problems that the Brackley team is facing, when not even Ferrari seems certain to run it to begin with.
Financing through sponsorship is obviously the major stumbling block, an area where Fry has not been very successful over the past years to put it politely.

The other options, such as Mexican telecom-tycoons, Greek property-magnates or Bahrain oil-sheiks with nothing better to do with 300 MUSD are just earth-dreams.

[pipex]

Yup, KERS is one of the smallest problems. I only wanted to know if someone knows more details about this . These days have been boring for me...

[Conceptual]

Does anyone know where the Honda engines from 2007 are? Can they not be rebuilt and ran still using the Honda name, just not support?

Didn't Cosworth claim to do that?

There is the answer! Get Cosworth to rebuild/tune the Honda 2007 V8's, and run em that way!

[timbo]

There is the answer! Get Cosworth to rebuild/tune the Honda 2007 V8's, and run em that way!

Time, time, time...
With about 1.5 month left (even left) such decision have to be made in coming few days.
This is sad, but with the way things go I think we gonna see third cars in Melbourne.

[axle]

Mercedes have offered their engines now, if the new Honda are suitably financed.

[timbo]

Mercedes have offered their engines now, if the new Honda are suitably financed.

That means that in time left there should be confirmation of a purchase, contract agreement with Mercedes reached, they have to receive engines, accomodate it in chassis (remember that 6 weeks that RB said) - quite a lot of work to do!
Maybe Fry hopes that if he buys team he can persuade Honda to continue with engines?