COVID-19 could affect more races this year.

[Mansell89]

Two races on the Autódromo Internacional do Algarve circuit in Portimao? I would welcome it.

[The Portuguese newspaper] A Bola reports that Formula 1 plans to host a double-header in Portugal later this year.
These would then take place on September 27 and October 4 in Portimao. The Portuguese newspaper also reports that the Formula 1 circus probably traveled to Mugello on September 13, after the Monza Grand Prix.
This would mean that the King's Class will linger in Europe a lot longer than originally intended.

https://www.abola.pt/nnh/2020-06-13/formula-1-f1-mundial-gar antido-em-portimao/848895

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Would love to see a return to Estoril! Fabulous little place to spend some time for a sporting weekend. Lisbon a short hop on the train and plenty to do!

[adrianjordan]

adrianjordan You need to read about the ties between Tedros Ghebreyesus (head of the W.H.O.) and the Chinese government. I could spend a page or two to explain but we are forbidden from talking politics.

So who do we believe then?

[Morteza]

[3jawchuck]

This is quite interesting. Still, going in line with how the data has been showing .

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/m ... index.html

[LM10]

This is quite interesting. Still, going in line with how the data has been showing .

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/m ... index.html

Am I missing something or why exactly is this interesting or “exciting news” as it says in the article? All had masks - that’s the point of them.

[3jawchuck]

This is quite interesting. Still, going in line with how the data has been showing .
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/m ... index.html

Am I missing something or why exactly is this interesting or “exciting news” as it says in the article? All had masks - that’s the point of them.

Judging from some comments in this thread, there has been some doubt about whether the procedures in place are worth it. Not to mention that until fairly recently there was plenty of debate all over about this topic in all areas of society. This is another example that these procedures are working.

[strad]

They test more so they naturally get more positives but a positive means nothing. My best friends wife and kid tested positive and after 14 days never showed any symptoms. The only cases to really count are those that wind up hospitalized.
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Back to how covid affects F1 please.

[hollus]

Just so that you know, posts and parts of posts that are just politics are being removed

[strad]

Is that the critical thinking helped along by Fox News and OAN?

ALL the media have changed from reporting news to reporting opinion. News in America is gone. They all want to shape your opinion rather than reporting the news in a neutral way.
I want it to be like Dragnet.."The fact just the facts maam"

[Just_a_fan]

Mods - this is a post that applies to F1 in general so although it looks political, that is not the intention. There's a general point about trusting of sources in general that applies also to F1.

strad - all media outlets put spin on stories. This happens in political news and other news e.g. F1. Look at the reporting of F1 stories and you'll see the same: that pro-Ferrari sites will report a story differently to site that is pro-another team.

In the UK, we have the BBC. It gets grief from everyone - the right say it's left wing, the left say it's right wing. That suggests it's probably about right in reality. I must admit to only having heard of a few US news sources and watched a few when on holiday in the USA. Fox is right wing, the Washington Post is left wing as I understand it. My understanding is that OAN is a fringe outlet focusing on loony-right stuff, hence my joke about it as a source.

With any news source, if you find yourself agreeing with / happy with all of the reporting, then you're experiencing confirmation bias. People tend to go to sources that match their pre-existing views on a subject/stance/political position/sports team. This has become particularly prevalent in the social media age where people "follow" particular outlets/personalities. We all do it but if we're careful, we can make an effort to look at sources that make us feel uncomfortable/that don't agree with our own position. That way we get to see more of the picture.

In motorsport, we need to use as many sources as possible and not just stick to one or two commentators that say the things we want to hear. Look at threads on the forum where a single source is used for a team. When the information provided is queried, there are often arguments because "there's a source". But if there's only one source for any story, it's no better than opinion.

Sorry, this sounds like I'm teaching granny to suck eggs, and I know you've been around the block enough to know all of this. It's a general annoyance of mine, really. Just getting it off my chest in general.

[adrianjordan]

adrianjordan You need to read about the ties between Tedros Ghebreyesus (head of the W.H.O.) and the Chinese government. I could spend a page or two to explain but we are forbidden from talking politics.

So who do we believe then?

Your own critical thinking would be a great start.

Thank you for telling a medical professional how to apply critical thinking, literally at the core of our evidence based decision making process, to a medical scenario.

So given that all the reputable trials large enough to be statistically significant are still ongoing, who do we believe?

My critical analysis says that the independent body set up to deal with worldwide health is more reliable than any of the US media outlets or conspiracy theorists.

[Scorpaguy]

It seems the America's are either still on the upward part of the bell curve or seeing a second wave in relation to new cases/day. While there can be debates as to what such numbers actually mean due to differnent testing protocols and all, I believe it is fair to state that the America's are still much worse off than Europe in regards to Covid.

Americans, of which I am one, are also prone to have more of a "devil may care/it will all work out in the end" mentality than Europeans (not saying such is good/bad/otherwise...just stating we tend to be an ornery/independent sort in general...for you Europeans, think of Poland on steroids). That being said, even if the Americas are to allow for our races to proceed, WILL THE FIA & F1 ALLOW FOR SUCH?

Even if we do "peak" soon, the downward curve in this pandemic seems to take months not weeks. I am beginning to think that the more conservative (pandemic wise I mean) heads of the FIA and F1 may have already canceled the races in America and an announcement will soon be forthcoming. I just cannot see the European teams willing to ship thousands of team members to a Covid hot (or warm/recently cooled) spot.

[wesley123]

WILL THE FIA & F1 ALLOW FOR SUCH?

F1 is owned by an American company. So yes.

[subcritical71]

WILL THE FIA & F1 ALLOW FOR SUCH?

F1 is owned by an American company. So yes.

I think it’s more of a ‘who will blink first’ mentality. The legal liability of mass infections are readily neutered by having fans acknowledge some legalese prior to the event. Even my local homeowners association has covered their ass for the common areas. The part waiting for a blink would be the millions of dollars in fees on the line and who needs to fork (or not) over the money may very well be determined by who cancelled the event (promoter, local government, FIA, Formula 1).

[nzjrs]

WILL THE FIA & F1 ALLOW FOR SUCH?

F1 is owned by an American company. So yes.

I think it’s more of a ‘who will blink first’ mentality. The legal liability of mass infections are readily neutered by having fans acknowledge some legalese prior to the event. Even my local homeowners association has covered their ass for the common areas. The part waiting for a blink would be the millions of dollars in fees on the line and who needs to fork (or not) over the money may very well be determined by who cancelled the event (promoter, local government, FIA, Formula 1).

Depending on the jurisdiction, disclaimers are not always sufficient to protect one from negligent actions. Of course negligence is happily argued after the fact in court by expensive lawyers.