Formula One's governing body has announced that it has come to a settlement with Scuderia Ferrari after investigations into its 2019 power unit, considered the most powered in F1.
I don’t think that is way the FIA stated... I read the statement in a way that they explained to the FIA what they did and how to spot it on other engines and/or rewrite the rules in such a way that no one could take this advantage anymore.
What do you expect them to do? Go to Verstappen and beg for mercy? I don't think they care much about him (rightly so). There are fairly more important things to do for them now.
An excuse would be welcome.
Excuse for what? I'm sure he was not the only one thinking Ferrari might have been up to something. But he was the only one having a big enough mouth to tell it publicly.Pyrone89 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 22:48An excuse would be welcome.
Nope, right thread. Because the comments and saga was about the engine.
Maybe Ferrari surrendering to the dark side made Lorenzo Sassi jump ship mid 2017.Jolle wrote: ↑09 Jul 2020, 01:47They might have been double hit by their FF trickery. While their power was up, Honda and Mercedes put their R&D in overdrive to match Ferrari. Now that their trick is gone.. they are even further behind.
Just thinking out loud, if there was anything very dodgy (which it seems to), probably from the racing team only the engine techs and senior staf knew about it (to contain it with the moving staff). When did James Allison change teams?
Edit, I looked it up. He left during 2016, a bad year for Ferrari. Looks like his successor pressed the magic button
Edit 2: the jump in engine power came with the new direction of Binotto. Could just be a coincidence or it runs quite deep...
In this fuel limited formula fuel usage is basically a function of time on throttle, so before they were using more fuel(probably more than the regs allowed) for a shorter amount of time(it took them less time to get down the straight), rather than less fuel for a longer amount of time. Furthermore, Ferrari were regularly using around 15kg more fuel than any of the other engines per race, which should have been a red flag to the regulators in of itself.hape wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 20:19Well we don’t know what they did exactly but some sort of voodoo power was in the engine that has gone now. I’m not going into the debate of legal or illegal voodoo.
But now their engine is tame and has probably the lowest output of any of the 4 engine manufacturers.
Could this be because they designed the engine for the high peak output of last year and now, without voodoo, it’s construction is heavier than necessary, things are oversized, simply not well designed for running without voodoo?
I can’t believe Ferrari are not able to do better than this, their voodoo being forbidden might have left them unable to build an engine optimized for this year. Or Shell with their fuel. Or both?
Furthermore, if we think back of Monza last year where Leclerc was being pushed by Hamilton and Bottas all race long, unable to overtake him out of the tow..... lap after lap the engine had its voodoo....how on earth did Ferrari manage to do that race with 110kg of fuel where now they are still able to burn 110kg of fuel in a race but without the magic power ?
I don't think the other teams engineers would be poking around the PU too much, they would (should) be more worried about their area of expertise. And anything that Ferrari could have been doing and the FIA wasn't able to figure it out after their investigation means that by just looking at it will not be obvious. Ferrari will have their engineers handling the engines. My understanding is they even wear the Haas and Alfa uniforms. Now, was Ferrari forthcoming about any and all engine modes as earlier rules/TDs specified must be supplied to all teams(?)jumpingfish wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 21:25It’s still not clear to me why not only Ferrari lost power, but their customers too? Does it mean that the engines for Alfa Romeo and Haas were illegal too? How is it possible that Ferrari deliberately and openly supplied illegal engines to two customers? Really the mechanics and engineers of their clients could not notice something strange / illegal?
And why in 2019 no one ever said that he had discovered abnormal accelerations of Alfa Romeo or Haas cars? After all, all the time it was believed that only the Ferrari motor was much more powerful, and the customers were on a par with the rest.
I think this was exaggerated by the SF90's low drag design. Also the Ferrari PU might not have only lost the fuel trick.jumpingfish wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 21:25It’s still not clear to me why not only Ferrari lost power, but their customers too? Does it mean that the engines for Alfa Romeo and Haas were illegal too? How is it possible that Ferrari deliberately and openly supplied illegal engines to two customers? Really the mechanics and engineers of their clients could not notice something strange / illegal?
And why in 2019 no one ever said that he had discovered abnormal accelerations of Alfa Romeo or Haas cars? After all, all the time it was believed that only the Ferrari motor was much more powerful, and the customers were on a par with the rest.
