2020 Formula 1 70th Anniversary Grand Prix - Silverstone, August 7-9

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Re: 2020 Formula 1 70th Anniversary Grand Prix - Silverstone, August 7-9

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Restomaniac wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:36
One thing I think today has confirmed is that Perez’s days are numbered. If Hulkenberg can come into the team completely cold and do that then why couldn’t Perez get more out of it.

I know it’s not as simple as that but if RP are seriously thinking of replacing Perez today may just be the final nail.
Perez didn't take part at Silverstone so it is unfair to say that.
What we do know is Perez is the overall better driver to Hulk, though they are closely matched. Same Tier as Ricciardo.
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Re: 2020 Formula 1 70th Anniversary Grand Prix - Silverstone, August 7-9

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:45
Restomaniac wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:36
One thing I think today has confirmed is that Perez’s days are numbered. If Hulkenberg can come into the team completely cold and do that then why couldn’t Perez get more out of it.

I know it’s not as simple as that but if RP are seriously thinking of replacing Perez today may just be the final nail.
Perez didn't take part at Silverstone so it is unfair to say that.
What we do know is Perez is the overall better driver to Hulk, though they are closely matched. Same Tier as Ricciardo.
I think your missing my point.

Stroll and Perez have pretty much been neck and neck in qualifying so far in 2020 (If anything it’s in strolls favour). Nico Hulkenberg was clearly under prepared due to the late call up last week. This week he has beaten Stroll by 3.5/10ths which is a decent amount.

Now consider that RP are obviously considering replacing Perez with a 4XWDC anyway. Today could be the final nail.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:37
Morteza wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:32
Possible strategies according to Pirelli
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ee5-j2oWkAE ... name=large

What happens about Max though? He is starting on hard tires. So he will do the first one but in reverse?
I guess he'll do a reverse of one of the top two.
The cars around Max are on soft / med and are likely to get a better start, at some point he'll have clear air though.

Should be a good race, I think he'll push the Mercs hard

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Restomaniac wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 19:01
PlatinumZealot wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:45
Restomaniac wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:36
One thing I think today has confirmed is that Perez’s days are numbered. If Hulkenberg can come into the team completely cold and do that then why couldn’t Perez get more out of it.

I know it’s not as simple as that but if RP are seriously thinking of replacing Perez today may just be the final nail.
Perez didn't take part at Silverstone so it is unfair to say that.
What we do know is Perez is the overall better driver to Hulk, though they are closely matched. Same Tier as Ricciardo.
I think your missing my point.

Stroll and Perez have pretty much been neck and neck in qualifying so far in 2020 (If anything it’s in strolls favour). Nico Hulkenberg was clearly under prepared due to the late call up last week. This week he has beaten Stroll by 3.5/10ths which is a decent amount.

Now consider that RP are obviously considering replacing Perez with a 4XWDC anyway. Today could be the final nail.
Hhmm. I think those are outliers. Perez was sick in Hungary. And Austria.. I think Stroll is either good at that track (like he is at Monza) or Perez made uncharacteristic errors. Normal service should resume when Perez comes back.
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Wynters wrote:
31 Jul 2020, 16:14
Stroll should crush Hulk this weekend. He's got every advantage.
Oh, Lance!

That's got to be bad for Stroll's self-image. He'll be desperate to beat him tomorrow.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 19:06
Restomaniac wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 19:01
PlatinumZealot wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:45


Perez didn't take part at Silverstone so it is unfair to say that.
What we do know is Perez is the overall better driver to Hulk, though they are closely matched. Same Tier as Ricciardo.
I think your missing my point.

Stroll and Perez have pretty much been neck and neck in qualifying so far in 2020 (If anything it’s in strolls favour). Nico Hulkenberg was clearly under prepared due to the late call up last week. This week he has beaten Stroll by 3.5/10ths which is a decent amount.

Now consider that RP are obviously considering replacing Perez with a 4XWDC anyway. Today could be the final nail.
Hhmm. I think those are outliers. Perez was sick in Hungary. And Austria.. I think Stroll is either good at that track (like he is at Monza) or Perez made uncharacteristic errors. Normal service should resume when Perez comes back.
By which time he could not have a seat for 2021. Which is what I’m talking about.

Racing Point have clearly had their heads turned by Vettel. The very last thing Perez needed was somebody who has never been near it put his car on P3 only 8 days after first sitting in it and who missed the last GP due to a mechanical failure. It regally was.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:45
Restomaniac wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:36
One thing I think today has confirmed is that Perez’s days are numbered. If Hulkenberg can come into the team completely cold and do that then why couldn’t Perez get more out of it.

I know it’s not as simple as that but if RP are seriously thinking of replacing Perez today may just be the final nail.
Perez didn't take part at Silverstone so it is unfair to say that.
What we do know is Perez is the overall better driver to Hulk, though they are closely matched. Same Tier as Ricciardo.
Seriously? In Riccardo category? Give me one example where Perez pulled a decent pass in a combat. All. I remember is his clumsy driving.

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I personally think it should be a great race. I think Bottas could be in for quite a fight, as Hamilton will give everything. The fact that everyone will be two stopping should also give plenty of opportunity to attempt over or under cuts. Either way, I think the race will unfold like this;

Bottas retains lead into T1.
Bottas will get pit priority, as is his right, for hards.
Hamilton will go long for a more aggressive last stint on mediums.
This might give him opportunities for a straight fight for position on the last stint.

Or Bottas simply is too strong in the lead and a fight never materialises. Or a safety car in the wrong time has everyone pit and thus neutralises the race. Or the benefactor could be the cars who haven't pitted yet and are going long. Lots of stuff bound to happen tomorrow.

And I really hope Hulk can get a podium. That would be lovely.
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MtthsMlw wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 17:05
dans79 wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 17:03
Vettel needs to be careful he might lose his potential job to Hulk!
I could understand that they sack Perez for Vettel for marketing and image reasons for example but sack him for Hulk?
He's been with the team before, and he's probably an order of magnitude cheaper!
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Phil wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 19:31
I personally think it should be a great race. I think Bottas could be in for quite a fight, as Hamilton will give everything. The fact that everyone will be two stopping should also give plenty of opportunity to attempt over or under cuts. Either way, I think the race will unfold like this;

Bottas retains lead into T1.
Bottas will get pit priority, as is his right, for hards.
Hamilton will go long for a more aggressive last stint on mediums.
This might give him opportunities for a straight fight for position on the last stint.

Or Bottas simply is too strong in the lead and a fight never materialises. Or a safety car in the wrong time has everyone pit and thus neutralises the race. Or the benefactor could be the cars who haven't pitted yet and are going long. Lots of stuff bound to happen tomorrow.

And I really hope Hulk can get a podium. That would be lovely.
Don't forget Bottas took a lot more out of his race start tires than Lewis did!
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True, but I think if Lewis shadows him, the wear will even out. It's damn if you do, damn if you don't. If Hamilton stays back, then Bottas has no reason to push his own tires to keep Lewis out of DRS. If Lewis tries to put Bottas under pressure, he too will be using his tires more. Bottas was quite close last race, around 1.0 to 1.5s difference throughout most of the race. I think Hamilton should be able to do that too, but if he gets closer, could he mount an attack in the DRS zones? Probably not. Unless Bottas tires go off first...

Who knows. I think it'll be a great race, I can't wait.
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Re: 2020 Formula 1 70th Anniversary Grand Prix - Silverstone, August 7-9

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GPR-A wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 19:31
PlatinumZealot wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:45
Restomaniac wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 18:36
One thing I think today has confirmed is that Perez’s days are numbered. If Hulkenberg can come into the team completely cold and do that then why couldn’t Perez get more out of it.

I know it’s not as simple as that but if RP are seriously thinking of replacing Perez today may just be the final nail.
Perez didn't take part at Silverstone so it is unfair to say that.
What we do know is Perez is the overall better driver to Hulk, though they are closely matched. Same Tier as Ricciardo.
Seriously? In Riccardo category? Give me one example where Perez pulled a decent pass in a combat. All. I remember is his clumsy driving.
I agree, Perez is not on Ricciardo,s level. Perez is usually one of the first to bin it when it rains and Ricciardo Has better racecraft and very strong qualy. Ocon is now also feeling that.

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dans79 wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 19:36
Phil wrote:
08 Aug 2020, 19:31
I personally think it should be a great race. I think Bottas could be in for quite a fight, as Hamilton will give everything. The fact that everyone will be two stopping should also give plenty of opportunity to attempt over or under cuts. Either way, I think the race will unfold like this;

Bottas retains lead into T1.
Bottas will get pit priority, as is his right, for hards.
Hamilton will go long for a more aggressive last stint on mediums.
This might give him opportunities for a straight fight for position on the last stint.

Or Bottas simply is too strong in the lead and a fight never materialises. Or a safety car in the wrong time has everyone pit and thus neutralises the race. Or the benefactor could be the cars who haven't pitted yet and are going long. Lots of stuff bound to happen tomorrow.

And I really hope Hulk can get a podium. That would be lovely.
Don't forget Bottas took a lot more out of his race start tires than Lewis did!
? Lewis has a flat spot on one of his fronts from having that lock up in S1. Bottas had a normal lap as far as I remember?

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It's a race ONLY if Lewis is behind after turn 3. If Lewis gets a stronger start than Bottas, then Race is just probably somewhere in the midfield.

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Will be interesting to see whether the RP falls back during the race again, and whether Hulk can fend off Max. Also interesting to see what kind of progress Norris can make, was a bit surprised to see him get shuffled to 10th.