2020 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, August 14 - 16

[F1Krof]

Yes let’s punish a team and engine manufacturer for doing an amazing job.

How dare Mercedes do a good job. Who do they think the are. No problems though like when the banned Fric Mercedes will find a way and everybody else will continue but moan like hell.

That’s F1 baby. Remember when they changed the entire points system when Ferrari was dominating to make championships closer? Or when they banned tire changes during the race specifically to handicap Ferrari/Bridgestone’s advantage? Or when they banned the double diffuser? The blown diffuser? Fric? Etc etc.

If something is disproportionately benefiting one team, shouldn’t the rules or governing body intervene to tighten the pack again? F1 has always ebbed and flowed like this. It is ENTERTAINMENT at the end of the day, as confirmed by Liberty themselves.

And even then, purists defended Ferrari as well (I defended them myself, even though I was not a fan of Ferrari). You cannot just simply make up rules just to hamper somebody who's doing a good job. This is beyond logic!

I guess if you can't beat them on track/pitch/arena -> make up new phaking rules, as the ado goes.

Unbelievable! I'm disgusted by the state F1 has gotten into.

[Juzh]

I dont think it'll change all that much. Merc ahead only by 0.7s instead of 1s and still ahead by the same amount in races. Might put RP and williams back a place or two in quali but thats it.

[GPR-A]

Every time a restriction comes in place, the best team manages to get out of it and bring equipment that beats the competition and at the same time, those who aren't the best team, start falling back. This one is going to go in the same direction. I am already looking at a situation where FIA would be scratching their head thinking, how did they shot in their foot again.

[F1Krof]

That’s F1 baby. Remember when they changed the entire points system when Ferrari was dominating to make championships closer? Or when they banned tire changes during the race specifically to handicap Ferrari/Bridgestone’s advantage? Or when they banned the double diffuser? The blown diffuser? Fric? Etc etc.

If something is disproportionately benefiting one team, shouldn’t the rules or governing body intervene to tighten the pack again? F1 has always ebbed and flowed like this. It is ENTERTAINMENT at the end of the day, as confirmed by Liberty themselves.

That’s fine but DURING a season? That screams of crying babies who don’t like somebody else doing a far better job than them.

I hate this new culture of saying MERCEDES DID THE BEST JOB IF YOU QUESTION IT YOURE A SORE LOSER. Ya know what I’m here for? Some bloody good racing. Qualifying can be one of the most exciting parts of a race weekend. If this makes it closer and more competitive, it HAS to be a good thing right?

People defending Mercedes are the same as Apple fans who say THE IPHONE IS THE BEST BECAUSE IT SELLS SO WELL AND APPLE MAKES SO MUCH MONEY... that doesn’t make it an anymore compelling proposition to the consumer.

Mercedes is objectively the best. No one can take that away from them. But now can we get a good show please?

You know there is a good show on Netflix called Drive to Survive, since you're into a good show. There are plenty more .

F1 has been and will (actually not anymore) about both engineering/technology race and track race. If you want to watch races with equal equipment there are plenty of series.

And you know your analogy with IPHONE is just ridiculous and not relevant at all.

[epo]

Yes let’s punish a team and engine manufacturer for doing an amazing job.

How dare Mercedes do a good job. Who do they think the are. No problems though like when the banned Fric Mercedes will find a way and everybody else will continue but moan like hell.

They did before with Ferrari & Schumi and Red Bull during their dominating years. They are great engineers, but dominating too long, especially for neutral watchers is boring as hell, almost always the same result.

Also my claim of cheating is not me but that is coming from non-Mercedes teams. But wouldn't be surprised now we see more of Toto and his buddy Stroll. Maybe a great deal with FIA like Ferrari, I wouldn't be surprised and not signing the Concorde deal seems like something is going on.

[Restomaniac]

That’s F1 baby. Remember when they changed the entire points system when Ferrari was dominating to make championships closer? Or when they banned tire changes during the race specifically to handicap Ferrari/Bridgestone’s advantage? Or when they banned the double diffuser? The blown diffuser? Fric? Etc etc.

If something is disproportionately benefiting one team, shouldn’t the rules or governing body intervene to tighten the pack again? F1 has always ebbed and flowed like this. It is ENTERTAINMENT at the end of the day, as confirmed by Liberty themselves.

That’s fine but DURING a season? That screams of crying babies who don’t like somebody else doing a far better job than them.

I hate this new culture of saying MERCEDES DID THE BEST JOB IF YOU QUESTION IT YOURE A SORE LOSER. Ya know what I’m here for? Some bloody good racing. Qualifying can be one of the most exciting parts of a race weekend. If this makes it closer and more competitive, it HAS to be a good thing right?

People defending Mercedes are the same as Apple fans who say THE IPHONE IS THE BEST BECAUSE IT SELLS SO WELL AND APPLE MAKES SO MUCH MONEY... that doesn’t make it an anymore compelling proposition to the consumer.

Mercedes is objectively the best. No one can take that away from them. But now can we get a good show please?

If you don’t like it you know where you anger needs to be aimed? At RedBull, Renault and Ferrari. But no let’s look at Mercedes.

[Restomaniac]

Yes let’s punish a team and engine manufacturer for doing an amazing job.

How dare Mercedes do a good job. Who do they think the are. No problems though like when the banned Fric Mercedes will find a way and everybody else will continue but moan like hell.

They did before with Ferrari & Schumi and Red Bull during their dominating years. They are great engineers, but dominating too long, especially for neutral watchers is boring as hell, almost always the same result.

Also my claim of cheating is not me but that is coming from non-Mercedes teams.

They changed rules like this during a season?

[GPR-A]

That’s F1 baby. Remember when they changed the entire points system when Ferrari was dominating to make championships closer? Or when they banned tire changes during the race specifically to handicap Ferrari/Bridgestone’s advantage? Or when they banned the double diffuser? The blown diffuser? Fric? Etc etc.

If something is disproportionately benefiting one team, shouldn’t the rules or governing body intervene to tighten the pack again? F1 has always ebbed and flowed like this. It is ENTERTAINMENT at the end of the day, as confirmed by Liberty themselves.

That’s fine but DURING a season? That screams of crying babies who don’t like somebody else doing a far better job than them.

I hate this new culture of saying MERCEDES DID THE BEST JOB IF YOU QUESTION IT YOURE A SORE LOSER. Ya know what I’m here for? Some bloody good racing. Qualifying can be one of the most exciting parts of a race weekend. If this makes it closer and more competitive, it HAS to be a good thing right?

People defending Mercedes are the same as Apple fans who say THE IPHONE IS THE BEST BECAUSE IT SELLS SO WELL AND APPLE MAKES SO MUCH MONEY... that doesn’t make it an anymore compelling proposition to the consumer.

Mercedes is objectively the best. No one can take that away from them. But now can we get a good show please?

Thank god there was no "AthleticsTechnical.com" public website, where discussions happened about the ability of a sprinter. Otherwise, people would have cried foul with the superiority of Usain Bolt and asked something to be done to stop his dominance and allow others to compete, for the sake of "Good Show"!

[epo]

That’s fine but DURING a season? That screams of crying babies who don’t like somebody else doing a far better job than them.

I hate this new culture of saying MERCEDES DID THE BEST JOB IF YOU QUESTION IT YOURE A SORE LOSER. Ya know what I’m here for? Some bloody good racing. Qualifying can be one of the most exciting parts of a race weekend. If this makes it closer and more competitive, it HAS to be a good thing right?

People defending Mercedes are the same as Apple fans who say THE IPHONE IS THE BEST BECAUSE IT SELLS SO WELL AND APPLE MAKES SO MUCH MONEY... that doesn’t make it an anymore compelling proposition to the consumer.

Mercedes is objectively the best. No one can take that away from them. But now can we get a good show please?

Thank god there was no "AthleticsTechnical.com" public website, where discussions happened about the ability of a sprinter. Otherwise, people would have cried foul with the superiority of Usain Bolt and asked something to be done to stop his dominance and allow others to compete!

Just log off, chill take a bear and enjoy the weather.

[GPR-A]

I hate this new culture of saying MERCEDES DID THE BEST JOB IF YOU QUESTION IT YOURE A SORE LOSER. Ya know what I’m here for? Some bloody good racing. Qualifying can be one of the most exciting parts of a race weekend. If this makes it closer and more competitive, it HAS to be a good thing right?

People defending Mercedes are the same as Apple fans who say THE IPHONE IS THE BEST BECAUSE IT SELLS SO WELL AND APPLE MAKES SO MUCH MONEY... that doesn’t make it an anymore compelling proposition to the consumer.

Mercedes is objectively the best. No one can take that away from them. But now can we get a good show please?

Thank god there was no "AthleticsTechnical.com" public website, where discussions happened about the ability of a sprinter. Otherwise, people would have cried foul with the superiority of Usain Bolt and asked something to be done to stop his dominance and allow others to compete!

Just log off, chill take a bear and enjoy the weather.

Agree. Those who think they are not getting a show and crying here, should do what you said. Thanks.

[dans79]

Also my claim of cheating is not me but that is coming from non-Mercedes teams.

Lets see some proof, from credible news sources, because I don't believe you one bit.

[GPR-A]

Also my claim of cheating is not me but that is coming from non-Mercedes teams.

Lets see some proof, from credible news sources, because I don't believe you one bit.

He says so, what more proof do you need?

[zibby43]

There is no benefit to the sport, spectacle, or spectators To have different modes in qualifying. If a ban has even a one in one million chance of condensing the field, spicing up qualifying and giving more teams (most likely only redbull) a chance at taking some poles - DO IT YESTERDAY. Anyone opposed to this change has to be a Mercedes fan, there’s no other excuse.

I thought we wanted to see drivers wrestling with the cars at full power during a quali lap.

Nobody at the FIA was concerned about quali modes last year when Ferrari was pulling 7 tenths out of a hat on the straights in freaking Singapore. Let that sink in.

I want the rules to be the same for everyone and let the best team win - none of this spec series crap. If I want spec series crap, I’ll watch it.

[zibby43]

On a side note, there is no actual confirmation that any “engine mode” changes will take place this year.

I suspect that it’s a strong-arm tactic of some sort re: Concorde.

I bet it happens for ‘21 though.

[epo]

There is no benefit to the sport, spectacle, or spectators To have different modes in qualifying. If a ban has even a one in one million chance of condensing the field, spicing up qualifying and giving more teams (most likely only redbull) a chance at taking some poles - DO IT YESTERDAY. Anyone opposed to this change has to be a Mercedes fan, there’s no other excuse.

I thought we wanted to see drivers wrestling with the cars at full power during a quali lap.

Nobody at the FIA was concerned about quali modes last year when Ferrari was pulling 7 tenths out of a hat on the straights in freaking Singapore. Let that sink in.

I want the rules to be the same for everyone and let the best team wins - none of this spec series crap. If I want spec series crap, I’ll watch it.

Because from an entertaining perspective it was fun too see Mercedes struggling or fighting with Ferrari instead of the usual 1-3 Mercedes has.