FIA wants to ban qualifying modes in 2021

[henry]

I think a change like this will highlight the essence of modern F1. For each function it boils down to:

How well do I understand the contribution this function makes to winning?

How well can I implement that understanding in software?

The first has always been there in F1 but over the years the second has increasingly amplified it’s effect so that lots of small understandings can be knit together to make a big difference.

I think one team excels at both and I think this change will emphasise their understanding and ability to implement that understanding.

[ispano6]

Honda and Mercedes have asked for a postponement and it was granted.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/66252/-m ... mode-.html

[dans79]

Honda and Mercedes have asked for a postponement and it was granted.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/66252/-m ... mode-.html

Kind of shows Redbull should be careful what they wish for, it might come back to bight them in the butt.

[Wass85]

It would be hilarious if it hurt Red Bull just as much as Mercedes and it put them behind Racing Point.

[ispano6]

It would be hilarious if it hurt Red Bull just as much as Mercedes and it put them behind Racing Point.

Racing Point uses Mercedes engines so it would hurt them too.

[Wass85]

It would be hilarious if it hurt Red Bull just as much as Mercedes and it put them behind Racing Point.

Racing Point uses Mercedes engines so it would hurt them too.

But who's to say they get the full benefit out of their engine modes, it's not out of the question to say they maybe get a detuned version of their engine.

[Just_a_fan]

It would be hilarious if it hurt Red Bull just as much as Mercedes and it put them behind Racing Point.

Racing Point uses Mercedes engines so it would hurt them too.

But who's to say they get the full benefit out of their engine modes, it's not out of the question to say they maybe get a detuned version of their engine.

The rules require customer teams to be supplied with identical power units.

[ispano6]

It would be hilarious if it hurt Red Bull just as much as Mercedes and it put them behind Racing Point.

Racing Point uses Mercedes engines so it would hurt them too.

But who's to say they get the full benefit out of their engine modes, it's not out of the question to say they maybe get a detuned version of their engine.

Nope, has to be identical. Read the rules.

[Zynerji]

Racing Point uses Mercedes engines so it would hurt them too.

But who's to say they get the full benefit out of their engine modes, it's not out of the question to say they maybe get a detuned version of their engine.

The rules require customer teams to be supplied with identical power units.

Does that have anything to do with software?

[Moore77]

But who's to say they get the full benefit out of their engine modes, it's not out of the question to say they maybe get a detuned version of their engine.

The rules require customer teams to be supplied with identical power units.

Does that have anything to do with software?

https://www.racefans.net/2018/02/23/fia ... mpetitive/

The clarification was issued in Technical Directive TD/005-18:

The purpose of [point] five of Appendix four to the F1 Sporting Regulations* is to ensure that all power units supplied by one manufacturer are identical in all respects, we have good reason to believe that this may not be the case. Whilst the dossiers for each team may be identical it would appear that some are being operated in a different way to others being supplied by the same manufacturer, this renders the purpose of [point] five almost meaningless.

It is therefore our view that all power units supplied by one manufacturer should be identical, not only in terms of the dossier for each team being the same, but we also feel they should be operated in an identical way. With this in mind, we will expect all power units supplied by the same manufacturer to be:

i) Identical according to the dossier for each team.
and, unless a team informs us that they have declined any of the following, they should be:
ii) Run with identical software and must be capable of being operated in precisely the same way.
iii) Run with identical specifications of oil and fuel.

[Just_a_fan]

But who's to say they get the full benefit out of their engine modes, it's not out of the question to say they maybe get a detuned version of their engine.

The rules require customer teams to be supplied with identical power units.

Does that have anything to do with software?

Yes.

Indeed Russell commented earlier this season that one of the reasons he was doing better in qualifying is that the Merc PU has new qualifying modes that they were benefitting from.

[Zynerji]

The rules require customer teams to be supplied with identical power units.

Does that have anything to do with software?

https://www.racefans.net/2018/02/23/fia ... mpetitive/

The clarification was issued in Technical Directive TD/005-18:

The purpose of [point] five of Appendix four to the F1 Sporting Regulations* is to ensure that all power units supplied by one manufacturer are identical in all respects, we have good reason to believe that this may not be the case. Whilst the dossiers for each team may be identical it would appear that some are being operated in a different way to others being supplied by the same manufacturer, this renders the purpose of [point] five almost meaningless.

It is therefore our view that all power units supplied by one manufacturer should be identical, not only in terms of the dossier for each team being the same, but we also feel they should be operated in an identical way. With this in mind, we will expect all power units supplied by the same manufacturer to be:

i) Identical according to the dossier for each team.
and, unless a team informs us that they have declined any of the following, they should be:
ii) Run with identical software and must be capable of being operated in precisely the same way.
iii) Run with identical specifications of oil and fuel.

Thanks! I thought they were still running bespoke maps.

[Big Tea]

It includes - unless a team informs us that they have declined any of the following- so it seems they have to be offered the top shot, but may decide it is not in their best interest so can take or create an alternative, such as better engine life.

[dans79]

Racing Point uses Mercedes engines so it would hurt them too.

But who's to say they get the full benefit out of their engine modes, it's not out of the question to say they maybe get a detuned version of their engine.

Nope, has to be identical. Read the rules.

they have to have access to them, it doesn't necessarily mean they run them for any number of reasons. For example they chose a cooling package that doesn't provide adequate cooling to run the highest mode.

[Wouter]

Translated with GT.

From Monza "Magic Button" only in the race

The long-awaited technical directive that will prohibit the use of the most aggressive mappings during the qualifying session on Saturday afternoon has unofficially arrived in these hours, but not in the race. Technical directive preceded by a few weeks of intense talks between FIA and engineers and a last meeting last Monday, where the federation anticipated the technical innovations by teleconference to the teams and where the timing of implementation was discussed again: there were indeed strong pressures by Mercedes to postpone everything 2021. It will enter into force from the GP of Italy , and not from that of Belgium that will take place in Spa in just over a week, to allow the engineers to complete the bench tests in preparation for the important change.

https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2020 ... -gara.html