[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Call me a bit too optimistic but my gut sees one of our boys in the podium this weekend I reckon Bottas and Verstappen make contact at la source lap 1 at least one will retire an we’ll control a steady race finish like I said seems optimistic but trusting my gut in this

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PhillipM wrote:
22 Aug 2020, 19:24
Of course you would, then you can PR spin it when you're even faster into "Even when they slow us down, we worked extra hard and showed the engineering might of Mercedes and the team by clawing all the loses back"
People forget F1 is entirely about advertising.
Then why he started to twist it now?

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Tommy Cookers wrote:
23 Aug 2020, 18:15
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23 Aug 2020, 16:55
.... what part of the PU provides the most extra power when in the quali modes?
the wastegate .....
(arguably)
I think that means that they turn down the MGU-H to a min to keep up the charge for as long as they need full throttle(might be completely off at some tracks, they can make it around on just the battery). That results in less of a need of exhaust pressure to spin the turbo. They therefore open the wastegate wider to allow more exhaust to bypass the turbo. That in turn generates a little more power for the ICE side and you probably need to recalibrate the engine timings for the new setup.

I suspect that at SPA, since the track is so long, you would need a whole lot of electrical energy from MGU-H. My guess would be they're doing something different at SPA or the PU is run very close to Max power race mode.

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The amount of downforce these cars generate even in their lowest downforce configuration is astounding and the reason why teams like Ferrari and Renault ran lower downforce configuration even on a track like Silverstone.

At Spa i expect everyone to run a proper low downforce package as long as they have one. Redbul, Ferrari and Renault will be running tailored low downforce packages which will benefit them significantly on a track. Sector 2 requires high speed cornering performance but if you set the car up for S2 you will be massively handicapped in S1 and S2.

Mclaren will mostly run their default medium downforce spec with a low downforce rear wing. The midfield is incredibly tight and i hope the lack of low. Downforce package does not compromise them too much. In qualifying because of the DRS it won't be much of an issue but in race conditions it will be a significant handicap.

Seidl appeared optimistic of Mclaren's chances at Spa as the car is competitive in high speed corners. Will be Interesting to see the pecking order in Spa and Monza.
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The amount of downforce these cars generate even in their lowest downforce configuration is astounding and the reason why teams like Ferrari and Renault ran lower downforce configuration even on a track like Silverstone.

At Spa i expect everyone to run a proper low downforce package as long as they have one. Redbull, Ferrari and Renault will be running tailored low downforce packages which will benefit them significantly on this track. Sector 2 requires high speed cornering performance but if you set the car up for S2 you will be massively handicapped in S1 and S3.

Mclaren will mostly run their default medium downforce spec with a low downforce rear wing. The midfield is incredibly tight and i hope the lack of low Downforce package will not compromise them too much. In qualifying because of the DRS it won't be much of an issue but in race conditions it will be a significant handicap.

Seidl appeared optimistic of Mclaren's chances at Spa as the car is competitive in high speed corners. Will be Interesting to see the pecking order in Spa and Monza.
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Looks like its going to rain all weekend. That probably impacts the decision to go with low DF packages

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Chicane wrote:
25 Aug 2020, 17:04
The amount of downforce these cars generate even in their lowest downforce configuration is astounding and the reason why teams like Ferrari and Renault ran lower downforce configuration even on a track like Silverstone.

At Spa i expect everyone to run a proper low downforce package as long as they have one. Redbull, Ferrari and Renault will be running tailored low downforce packages which will benefit them significantly on this track. Sector 2 requires high speed cornering performance but if you set the car up for S2 you will be massively handicapped in S1 and S3.

Mclaren will mostly run their default medium downforce spec with a low downforce rear wing. The midfield is incredibly tight and i hope the lack of low Downforce package will not compromise them too much. In qualifying because of the DRS it won't be much of an issue but in race conditions it will be a significant handicap.

Seidl appeared optimistic of Mclaren's chances at Spa as the car is competitive in high speed corners. Will be Interesting to see the pecking order in Spa and Monza.
Typically SPA isn't a low DF, it's traditionally been medium. But with all the DF they're now generating maybe they're moving more to a low DF. Monza you'd typically have propper DF package.

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So which is more affected by wind? High or lower downforce?
Higher downforce pushes the car harder to the track, so harder to move it, as long as the wind is head on. From behind, I imagine a 50 mph wind is the same as a drop of 50 mph ?

How do sideways or angled winds affect? especally if they create eddies blowing against the car or road destroying the designed flow.

High speed and lower downforce is going to be less affected by tail wind, but is it more so with side on wind?

Does this require too much answer for here? sorry if it does.
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Big Tea wrote:
25 Aug 2020, 18:53
So which is more affected by wind? High or lower downforce?
Higher downforce pushes the car harder to the track, so harder to move it, as long as the wind is head on. From behind, I imagine a 50 mph wind is the same as a drop of 50 mph ?

How do sideways or angled winds affect? especally if they create eddies blowing against the car or road destroying the designed flow.

High speed and lower downforce is going to be less affected by tail wind, but is it more so with side on wind?

Does this require too much answer for here? sorry if it does.

What kind of wind ? Tail,head side ?


Not sure about side winds but tail winds are more of a problem that head winds. Head winds you'll get more brake action and you can ease off the brakes. Tail you'll brake to late and miss the apex.

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diffuser wrote:
25 Aug 2020, 23:14
Big Tea wrote:
25 Aug 2020, 18:53
So which is more affected by wind? High or lower downforce?
Higher downforce pushes the car harder to the track, so harder to move it, as long as the wind is head on. From behind, I imagine a 50 mph wind is the same as a drop of 50 mph ?

How do sideways or angled winds affect? especally if they create eddies blowing against the car or road destroying the designed flow.

High speed and lower downforce is going to be less affected by tail wind, but is it more so with side on wind?

Does this require too much answer for here? sorry if it does.

What kind of wind ? Tail,head side ?


Not sure about side winds but tail winds are more of a problem that head winds. Head winds you'll get more brake action and you can ease off the brakes. Tail you'll brake to late and miss the apex.
Its probably too wide a subject to go into here, sorry realised after I posted
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any idea if Norris will get a new PU this weekend? Sainz was supposed to get it in Spa initally (but pulled one weekend early because of the cooling issues), so I guess he is on the same schedule?!

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search wrote:
26 Aug 2020, 14:02
any idea if Norris will get a new PU this weekend? Sainz was supposed to get it in Spa initally (but pulled one weekend early because of the cooling issues), so I guess he is on the same schedule?!
Think a statement from McLaren was posted here last week that they will be giving him a new PU.

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thanks, must have missed that. And it makes sense to bring a new PU for the coming power tracks of course