[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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A facinating read.

CASE STUDY: VENTILATOR CHALLENGE UK
How McLaren answered the nation's call in the fight against covid-19

• Joint effort across McLaren Group accelerates ventilator production from 50 a week to 200 a day
• McLaren helps deliver 13,437 ventilators to double stock available to the NHS
• More than 100,000 individual components manufactured by McLaren in just 10 weeks
• McLaren collaborates with partners and suppliers to procure 50% of parts for Penlon ventilator
• President’s Special Award for Pandemic Service awarded to McLaren by the RAEng

Here's the full article.
https://www.mclaren.com/racing/inside-t ... llenge-uk/

So proud of the boys and girls at mclaren !!! Amazing work =D> =D> =D>

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can anyone share this article here? Many of us dont have a subscription :)

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/the- ... =widget-22

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McFAN wrote:
27 Aug 2020, 02:02
A facinating read.

CASE STUDY: VENTILATOR CHALLENGE UK
How McLaren answered the nation's call in the fight against covid-19

• Joint effort across McLaren Group accelerates ventilator production from 50 a week to 200 a day
• McLaren helps deliver 13,437 ventilators to double stock available to the NHS
• More than 100,000 individual components manufactured by McLaren in just 10 weeks
• McLaren collaborates with partners and suppliers to procure 50% of parts for Penlon ventilator
• President’s Special Award for Pandemic Service awarded to McLaren by the RAEng

Here's the full article.
https://www.mclaren.com/racing/inside-t ... llenge-uk/

So proud of the boys and girls at mclaren !!! Amazing work =D> =D> =D>
Brilliant article and thanks to Mclaren from 'the man in the street' too. Well done all
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genarro wrote:
27 Aug 2020, 09:08
can anyone share this article here? Many of us dont have a subscription :)

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/the- ... =widget-22
You're not allowed to do that. It would be taken down anyways.

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Not if you can paste the text only.

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According to Carlos Sainz, aero developments for the MCL35 won’t arrive until at least one more month... Only tweaks to current parts expected for the triple header.

Even when it is known that manufacturing of parts is behind, I’m surprised that it has taken so long for major updates to be ready for the car... I wonder if it’s a new package that needs all parts to be installed together in order to provide the expected performance... Which would explain the delays.


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SmallSoldier wrote:
27 Aug 2020, 23:12
According to Carlos Sainz, aero developments for the MCL35 won’t arrive until at least one more month... Only tweaks to current parts expected for the triple header.

Even when it is known that manufacturing of parts is behind, I’m surprised that it has taken so long for major updates to be ready for the car... I wonder if it’s a new package that needs all parts to be installed together in order to provide the expected performance... Which would explain the delays.


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Yes but they also had to make 70 folks redundant and had a cash flow problem until 2 months after the summer break finished, so I'm not sure how much that affected things. Not sure if they ring fenced the F1 team financially but it wouldn't surprise me if this had contributed a small amount.
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SmallSoldier wrote:
27 Aug 2020, 23:12
According to Carlos Sainz, aero developments for the MCL35 won’t arrive until at least one more month... Only tweaks to current parts expected for the triple header.

Even when it is known that manufacturing of parts is behind, I’m surprised that it has taken so long for major updates to be ready for the car... I wonder if it’s a new package that needs all parts to be installed together in order to provide the expected performance... Which would explain the delays.


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I imagine all focus was swapped to any components they need to change before the Italian GP when they become locked in until the end of 2021 - electronics, brakes and arguably more interesting, the front crash structure (potentially affecting the nose shape going forward) and the inboard suspension components are on that list.

Aerodynamic parts can be changed afterwards freely but because McLaren lose their 2 tokens as a result of the engine swap, they have to get these parts homologated next week or they're stuck with them.

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Also with 9 races in 11 weeks, McLaren stated their main production focus was ensuring they had enough Spare parts to see them through It should the worst happen

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mwillems wrote:
SmallSoldier wrote:
27 Aug 2020, 23:12
According to Carlos Sainz, aero developments for the MCL35 won’t arrive until at least one more month... Only tweaks to current parts expected for the triple header.

Even when it is known that manufacturing of parts is behind, I’m surprised that it has taken so long for major updates to be ready for the car... I wonder if it’s a new package that needs all parts to be installed together in order to provide the expected performance... Which would explain the delays.


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Yes but they also had to make 70 folks redundant and had a cash flow problem until 2 months after the summer break finished, so I'm not sure how much that affected things. Not sure if they ring fenced the F1 team financially but it wouldn't surprise me if this had contributed a small amount.
I’m sure the Covid19 measures had to have an impact, although the Cash Flow issues were an issue from a Forecast perspective, but I would have expected the team to have short term financing to maintain their level of development... It is special projects (such as the Wind Tunnel) that would have suffer the biggest effects of a cash constrain.


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the EDGE wrote:
27 Aug 2020, 23:49
Also with 9 races in 11 weeks, McLaren stated their main production focus was ensuring they had enough Spare parts to see them through It should the worst happen
Isn't that the same for all teams though?

Either they have less capacity or less efficiency, or they are doing something else as mentioned above. That something else may also be in part the extra work required to get the car ready for the Merc engine next year I guess.
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Chalke wrote:
SmallSoldier wrote:
27 Aug 2020, 23:12
According to Carlos Sainz, aero developments for the MCL35 won’t arrive until at least one more month... Only tweaks to current parts expected for the triple header.

Even when it is known that manufacturing of parts is behind, I’m surprised that it has taken so long for major updates to be ready for the car... I wonder if it’s a new package that needs all parts to be installed together in order to provide the expected performance... Which would explain the delays.


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I imagine all focus was swapped to any components they need to change before the Italian GP when they become locked in until the end of 2021 - electronics, brakes and arguably more interesting, the front crash structure (potentially affecting the nose shape going forward) and the inboard suspension components are on that list.

Aerodynamic parts can be changed afterwards freely but because McLaren lose their 2 tokens as a result of the engine swap, they have to get these parts homologated next week or they're stuck with them.
I didn’t realize that the teams had until the Italian GP to make changes to the chassis, I thought the chassis were already locked considering what they raced as of the Austrian GP... Could you share a bit more information about it please? Would love to read the rules regarding it.


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the EDGE wrote:Also with 9 races in 11 weeks, McLaren stated their main production focus was ensuring they had enough Spare parts to see them through It should the worst happen
That’s a very good point and maybe the biggest reason for the delays... Although, the plan for spare parts should have been under execution before the season started, since afterwards the spare parts would have to be of any new iterations they will bring to the track.


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SmallSoldier wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 01:06
mwillems wrote:
SmallSoldier wrote:
27 Aug 2020, 23:12
According to Carlos Sainz, aero developments for the MCL35 won’t arrive until at least one more month... Only tweaks to current parts expected for the triple header.

Even when it is known that manufacturing of parts is behind, I’m surprised that it has taken so long for major updates to be ready for the car... I wonder if it’s a new package that needs all parts to be installed together in order to provide the expected performance... Which would explain the delays.


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Yes but they also had to make 70 folks redundant and had a cash flow problem until 2 months after the summer break finished, so I'm not sure how much that affected things. Not sure if they ring fenced the F1 team financially but it wouldn't surprise me if this had contributed a small amount.
I’m sure the Covid19 measures had to have an impact, although the Cash Flow issues were an issue from a Forecast perspective, but I would have expected the team to have short term financing to maintain their level of development... It is special projects (such as the Wind Tunnel) that would have suffer the biggest effects of a cash constrain.


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Possibly but from what I read it was an actual cashflow problem, i.e. They needed cash to service their immediate obligations until cash from car sales and racing income started coming back in again. How much that affected the team I don't know I just wouldn't rule it out. Their revenues in 2019 were £1.5bn, each month then is possibly £125m not coming in, it's a sizeable hole. Mclaren F1 ran to a loss last year and the year before so they may not have reserves and didn't bank on 3+ months of no cash coming in at all. If the group didn't have cash to pay their own way then could they divert cash to the F1 team right away?

I have no idea if that was the case but it's entirely possible. PhilipM might have some idea of what happened.
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