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Holm86 wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 12:21
It's a good way of creating downforce, as using the outwash from the sidepods means the direction of the drag vector is outwards rather than backwards. So there is not the same drag penalty
Incorrect, air doesn't care about direction vector when applying a force as it travels across a surface, air only cares about pressure differential. That differential is responsible for drag. If you look at the floor, there is a raised section at the edge right behind the deflectors. The deflectors work with the air that spills out of the floor at that area. Red Bull and Mercedes have 4 little shark teeth fins to further help that area.
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Changed as well ??
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godlameroso wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:16
Holm86 wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 12:21
It's a good way of creating downforce, as using the outwash from the sidepods means the direction of the drag vector is outwards rather than backwards. So there is not the same drag penalty
Incorrect, air doesn't care about direction vector when applying a force as it travels across a surface, air only cares about pressure differential. That differential is responsible for drag. If you look at the floor, there is a raised section at the edge right behind the deflectors. The deflectors work with the air that spills out of the floor at that area. Red Bull and Mercedes have 4 little shark teeth fins to further help that area.
It is not incorrect, there will always be a drag vector when you have any sort of AoA.
And if that drag vector points rearwards, the car has to overcome it, if they are pointing to the side they are canceled out.
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Wow nice to se them already evaluating the floor change and the influence it will have for next year!

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_cerber1 wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:42
Very early testing of 2021 spec floor, impressive !!
lets hope they get it right.

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Holm86 wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:42
godlameroso wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:16
Holm86 wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 12:21
It's a good way of creating downforce, as using the outwash from the sidepods means the direction of the drag vector is outwards rather than backwards. So there is not the same drag penalty
Incorrect, air doesn't care about direction vector when applying a force as it travels across a surface, air only cares about pressure differential. That differential is responsible for drag. If you look at the floor, there is a raised section at the edge right behind the deflectors. The deflectors work with the air that spills out of the floor at that area. Red Bull and Mercedes have 4 little shark teeth fins to further help that area.
It is not incorrect, there will always be a drag vector when you have any sort of AoA.
And if that drag vector points rearwards, the car has to overcome it, if they are pointing to the side they are canceled out.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy ... Avd_0TmeL8
Again it doesn't matter which direction the drag is going, drag is drag. To get the drag to "go out the sides" the air has to be turned upstream causing more drag. At the end of the day you want to slow the air going over the car and speed it up underneath.

Lateral airflow, aka outwash is still redirecting air and thus increasing air pressure, vs the underside of the floor.
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Another view of the 2021 spec floor.


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McFAN wrote:Another view of the 2021 spec floor.


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That’s a nice picture!

Pretty cool for Mclaren to already be trying the 2021 floor.


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Didn't seem to make the car much slower.
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Holm86 wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:42
godlameroso wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 14:16
Holm86 wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 12:21
It's a good way of creating downforce, as using the outwash from the sidepods means the direction of the drag vector is outwards rather than backwards. So there is not the same drag penalty
Incorrect, air doesn't care about direction vector when applying a force as it travels across a surface, air only cares about pressure differential. That differential is responsible for drag. If you look at the floor, there is a raised section at the edge right behind the deflectors. The deflectors work with the air that spills out of the floor at that area. Red Bull and Mercedes have 4 little shark teeth fins to further help that area.
It is not incorrect, there will always be a drag vector when you have any sort of AoA.
And if that drag vector points rearwards, the car has to overcome it, if they are pointing to the side they are canceled out.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy ... Avd_0TmeL8

I think they are vortex generators

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McFAN wrote:
28 Aug 2020, 16:12
Another view of the 2021 spec floor.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egf1YjiVkAA ... name=large
It’s hard to believe it’s September next week. Usually this weekend would be the return from the summer break and a time when most teams attention would be switching to next year, yet it feels like the season has only just begun

I guess the 2021 development programs at all teams are fully underway anyway especially with the homologation rules coming in

Makes me wonder how much more development we will see for the remainder or the year but then I guess with chassis carried over to next year the usual development path will be re-written in favour of continuing the development of the 35 until the last race and simply picking up in March where they left off in December

Somewhere along the line the 35 could simply morph into the 36 (With a shiny new engine of course :D )

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Chicane wrote:
The new sidepod deflectors are Ivan Roldán last contribution to the F1 team


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