2020 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, September 4 - 6

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Re: 2020 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, September 4 - 6

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Wass85 wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 20:55
These races are no good for the social life, it would be heaven if they could run them early in the morning so then you've got day to yourself.
What if F1 is your social life? :P

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@MtthsMlw already posted the tire pressures for this year's race.

But here's a comparison between last year's and this year's values:

Front - 26psi +2.5psi (2019 - 23.5 psi)

Rear - 21.5psi +0.5psi (2019 - 21.0 psi)

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Looking at that table without Mercedes, its a good job we have Mercedes in F1.
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zibby43 wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 22:18
@MtthsMlw already posted the tire pressures for this year's race.

But here's a comparison between last year's and this year's values:

Front - 26psi +2.5psi (2019 - 23.5 psi)

Rear - 21.5psi +0.5psi (2019 - 21.0 psi)
I was just about to point out the same. 21psi sounds insane for such a track? Sure, the high top speeds.... but even so..
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zibby43 wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 22:18
@MtthsMlw already posted the tire pressures for this year's race.

But here's a comparison between last year's and this year's values:

Front - 26psi +2.5psi (2019 - 23.5 psi)

Rear - 21.5psi +0.5psi (2019 - 21.0 psi)
Why are the pressures so high, I doubt they are putting much stress on the tires here with df pulled off the car....

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NathanOlder wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 23:07
Looking at that table without Mercedes, its a good job we have Mercedes in F1.
Your wrong as usual, take that table and add the last seven years and it would have a lot more interesting.

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Wass85 wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 20:56
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31 Aug 2020, 20:44
The leader has more than double the points of second man and not a merc in sight No other comment :mrgreen:
Verstappen is in a class of his own.
Blah, blah, "best car", blah, blah, "Number 2 team mate", blah, blah, "Taki Inoue would be better"... etc, etc
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It's nice to see that sort of table. I've been a fan of (the very similar) Formula 1.5 for a while. Iirc, 31 points seperate the current top 5 (with 4 different manufacturers in there).

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epo wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 23:24
NathanOlder wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 23:07
Looking at that table without Mercedes, its a good job we have Mercedes in F1.
Your wrong as usual, take that table and add the last seven years and it would have a lot more interesting.
:lol: I was merely pointing out that as a lot of people moaned about Spa being boring (so I'm aiming this at them) despite the intense battles from P5 down to pretty much last. Meaning those people only want to see action at the very front, a 47pt lead for Lewis over a rival team driver, is better than a 78pt lead for Max over a weak team mate. Therefore, thank god that Mercedes are there. Or do people not really care about the Racing, they just want to see Lewis not win.

As for the "wrong as usual" part. please point out where I am wronh as usual with some quotes, or is it just a load of rubbish that you will probably ignore or just try and swerve it by changing your point or commenting on something else says?
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Wynters wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 23:33
Wass85 wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 20:56
Big Tea wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 20:44
The leader has more than double the points of second man and not a merc in sight No other comment :mrgreen:
Verstappen is in a class of his own.
Blah, blah, "best car", blah, blah, "Number 2 team mate", blah, blah, "Taki Inoue would be better"... etc, etc
:wink:

It's nice to see that sort of table. I've been a fan of (the very similar) Formula 1.5 for a while. Iirc, 31 points seperate the current top 5 (with 4 different manufacturers in there).
I was going to go with Yuki Tsunoda!
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etusch wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 20:08
In fact it is how it would be if Ham is not there

https://i.ibb.co/k0kpp9r/IMG-20200831-210242.jpg
Looks like it'd be even more boring and predictable than some say it already is now!

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El Scorchio wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 23:40
etusch wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 20:08
In fact it is how it would be if Ham is not there

https://i.ibb.co/k0kpp9r/IMG-20200831-210242.jpg
Looks like it'd be even more boring and predictable than some say it already is now!
I agree.
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NathanOlder wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 23:07
Looking at that table without Mercedes, its a good job we have Mercedes in F1.
At my ex job I was observing football team fans (3 big team in Turkey) which were looking like that all they wanted thing is that their team shoot and shoot again to target for goal for whole match time. Their team's rivals only reason to be there is allowing our great football fan's team to score score score then win then became champion. They haven't got any relation with football's itself and have zero wish to have a good competition between teams. I commented such unintentionally after reading your comment.

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El Scorchio wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 23:40
etusch wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 20:08
In fact it is how it would be if Ham is not there

https://i.ibb.co/k0kpp9r/IMG-20200831-210242.jpg
Looks like it'd be even more boring and predictable than some say it already is now!
As I always said, Formula must take lessons from motogp. Everytime we see same picture in Formula 1. Always one dominant. There must be at least two team to fight for winning. This season is so bad I almost will want from Fia to allow Ferrari to use their 2019 engine.

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NathanOlder wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 23:42
El Scorchio wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 23:40
etusch wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 20:08
In fact it is how it would be if Ham is not there

https://i.ibb.co/k0kpp9r/IMG-20200831-210242.jpg
Looks like it'd be even more boring and predictable than some say it already is now!
I agree.
I never said the race was boring, just to make that clear. You with your “these people”. Hahaha. There is only one thing you want up front. As long as that happens you are happy. But indeed, once Max has the best car it will be a snoozefest. I want him to win but rather not in that way. He was P2 only behind 1 Merc in Austria when the car stopped, otherwise it would have been a P1 galore in the mercless chart.

Hopefully the budget cap will prevent one team being dominant. It is time for some tense fights, not only in the midfield.

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Phil wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 23:18
I was just about to point out the same. 21psi sounds insane for such a track? Sure, the high top speeds.... but even so..
holeindalip wrote:
31 Aug 2020, 23:19
Why are the pressures so high, I doubt they are putting much stress on the tires here with df pulled off the car....
Agree with both of you. The tires are going to be balloons.

I'm guessing it's a similar move to what was done at the 70th anniversary GP - protect the tires from stress due to the significant speeds expected.