2020 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, September 4 - 6

[PlatinumZealot]

Even more pain for Ferrari? They are bloody lucky there won't be any fans there this year.

Yea, I have a feeling the podium celebration would end in a riot!

Ferrari could cheat in broad daylight here and FIA wouldn't dare penalize if they want to go home alive!

[langedweil]

These races are no good for the social life, it would be heaven if they could run them early in the morning so then you've got day to yourself.

I'm in the caribbean and except for the Asian/Oz races, those starting times are really nice. All European races are neatly @09.10; not too early, not to late.

[Bsowles]

These races are no good for the social life, it would be heaven if they could run them early in the morning so then you've got day to yourself.

Move to the US then everything other than, Canada, Austin, Mexico and Brazil are early in the morning.

Yep. I’m on the west coast of the US. Most races start at around 6 AM here.

[collindsilva]

Any idea what will be the affect of the engine mode ban on the different teams, who's going to be the loser, my guess merc customer teams aka RP and Williams

[ispano6]

Even more pain for Ferrari? They are bloody lucky there won't be any fans there this year.

Yea, I have a feeling the podium celebration would end in a riot!

Ferrari could cheat in broad daylight here and FIA wouldn't dare penalize if they want to go home alive!

Same with Reno. It is the FIA and Jean Todt after all.

[ispano6]

These races are no good for the social life, it would be heaven if they could run them early in the morning so then you've got day to yourself.

I'm in the caribbean and except for the Asian/Oz races, those starting times are really nice. All European races are neatly @09.10; not too early, not to late.

@Wass85
What are you complaining about? Some people wake up at 3am and 6am to catch FP1/FP3, FP2/Quali.
After the quali and race its bedtime starting at 8am.

[_cerber1]

Yea, I have a feeling the podium celebration would end in a riot!

Ferrari could cheat in broad daylight here and FIA wouldn't dare penalize if they want to go home alive!

Same with Reno. It is the FIA and Jean Todt after all.

This is paranoia. This is not your first post where you suspect everyone of something, except for a Honda, and do not give any evidence of their guilt.

[ispano6]

Ferrari could cheat in broad daylight here and FIA wouldn't dare penalize if they want to go home alive!

Same with Reno. It is the FIA and Jean Todt after all.

This is paranoia. This is not your first post where you suspect everyone of something, except for a Honda, and do not give any evidence of their guilt.

Everyone is entitled to their "educated" opinion. Part of my job skill is putting together the mundane and associating things people normally don't look at and predicting the outcome of yet to occur events (Data Science). I'll tell you one thing - it's long been the opinion of Honda personnel(old-timers, retirees) that F1 is euro-centric (I always hear it). If you don't see it that way, fine. But you have rose colored glasses on.

PS Did you forget that Renault were caught cheating with illegal brake balance for an entire season up to Suzuka? Heck they weren't even caught, they were snitched. Or when Renault were found to conveniently giveToro Rosso used power units with what seemed like scraps parts only to finish barely ahead of them in the championship the last year they were supplying TR? Might that be happening to McLaren now that their partnership is ending and Renault want to take P3 in the championship? Only off by 7pts and only need to beat them by 1.

Honda seeks clarity of "lost in translation" and asks FIA "can we do this?" Nope.
Ferrari and Renault don't even bother asking, they just run with it. "Oh, we didn't know that it was illegal."

[ispano6]

Verstappen is in a class of his own.

Blah, blah, "best car", blah, blah, "Number 2 team mate", blah, blah, "Taki Inoue would be better"... etc, etc


It's nice to see that sort of table. I've been a fan of (the very similar) Formula 1.5 for a while. Iirc, 31 points seperate the current top 5 (with 4 different manufacturers in there).

I was going to go with Yuki Tsunoda!

Funny, I was going to say Dan Dictum!
But seriously, no American drivers close to graduating to F1, what's up with that?

[selvam_e2002]

Renault quicker than RB in Monza. Please refer last year Q3 result

Lecrec: 1:19.307 (with loophole in the rule)
Ricciardo: 1:19:839

difference ~.5 second to Ferrari.

RB:1:20.021 Q2 exist for Albon.

Even if they go with less DF, I think Renault should have upper hand.

[Wass85]

You boys have it good although 9am is great 7am would be perfect for me.

[_cerber1]

Everyone is entitled to their "educated" opinion. Part of my job skill is putting together the mundane and associating things people normally don't look at and predicting the outcome of yet to occur events (Data Science). I'll tell you one thing - it's long been the opinion of Honda personnel(old-timers, retirees) that F1 is euro-centric (I always hear it). If you don't see it that way, fine. But you have rose colored glasses on.

Who told you that you have professional skills? A real professional, he always looks at things objectively, you only imagine Honda as the most honest and exceptional manufacturer, and everyone else, by definition, bribes or deceives the FIA. You have been predicting for three years that Honda will have the best engine, but it doesn't, it seems that your associations are not working. I am not against Honda, but I think that throwing mud at other engine manufacturers on an unsubstantiated basis is unprofessional and unconstructive. In your translations, Honda engineers take their time to blame their competitors, so take their example!

[Juzh]

Renault quicker than RB in Monza. Please refer last year Q3 result

Lecrec: 1:19.307 (with loophole in the rule)
Ricciardo: 1:19:839

difference ~.5 second to Ferrari.

RB:1:20.021 Q2 exist for Albon.

Even if they go with less DF, I think Renault should have upper hand.

Albon's first Q3 lap was on target for 1.19.5 before he had to lift for raikkonen crash and subsequent red flag deleted even this lap. He then didnt set another lap due to traffic jam. Verstappen is always 0.3-0.5s faster than albon, so he would fight for pole even and destroy renaults completely.

[Juzh]

Anyway, days of record setting quali pace are over, unless teams figure a way around engine map change ban. We know highest engine setting in race is worth 1s over normal modes (horner to wolf comment for bottas' fast lap in spain), and quali mode is worth another 1s over this I'd say, so pace will drop significantly.

Predicting no car under 1.21

[collindsilva]

As stated refer link merc qualified in SPA without party mode, does that mean customers such as RP and williams followed similar path. Any thoughts...
https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1/25 ... party-mode