2020 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, September 4 - 6

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Moore77
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 18:48
The RB16 is a strong car. It arguably is stronger than Mercedes in some conditions. Once Max learns to extract 100% from it he will there.
I didn't know Toto Wolff is here on the forums. :lol:
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I see that Vettel just purchased the FW14B. Maybe he can drive that one into the points this weekend. :D

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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 09:31
Zynerji wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 09:09
Sounds like Formula E is more your style then. Reminds me of folk who sit in the grandstand, but watch the race on those Kangaroo TV.

Why even spend the money to be there in person? 🙄
I found the V10s of the mid 90s to be loud enough with the exhaust basically shielded by blowing out between the gearbox and the rear wheels. The V8s blowing across the top of the floor were just too loud for me as the sound was direct from the pipe to the ear. I have hearing problems anyway and I found the unfiltered sound just physically uncomfortable after a short period. I remember plenty of people wearing some hearing protection of one kind or another - even just a bit of cotton wool in the ears - whilst all the children I saw had ear defenders on (quite right too).

The sound is great but there's no need to risk hearing damage for it. Much like people who go shooting (clay pigeons or game birds) and don't have ear protection. Eventually it catches up with you.

Having been in the garage when one of the Cosworth V10s fired up, I can tell you they're damaging-loud from 6 ft away! 8)
I went to a lot of short-speedway, modified/super modified races with my father as a small child. He was always very careful about the hearing protection. I guess i just have a base concept that racecars=loud, and ear protection was part of the experience.

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notsofast wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 19:25
I see that Vettel just purchased the FW14B. Maybe he can drive that one into the points this weekend. :D
The last time the FW14B was at Monza it only came 5th in the hands of Patrese. Mansell's car retired. Going to guess that's a bad omen for Seb this weekend... :lol:

Sadly, the FW14B wouldn't do that well against the modern stuff. in 1992, the fastest lap was by Mansell (before retiring) at 1.26. Last year's fastest lap was by Hamilton at 1.21.7...
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Williams leave. Sad day for me. Wish it was Jonathan that ran the team and not this no good Claire!!

Things get worse for Binotto. He is now the worst TP on the grid!
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 18:48
The RB16 is a strong car. It arguably is stronger than Mercedes in some conditions. Once Max learns to extract 100% from it he will there.
Which conditions?

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mem wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 15:20
actually Max from lap 15 to lap 25 never was more than 1.5s to Bottas
Apart from laps 16 annd 17? The screenshot you used shows the gaps at 1.695 and 1.898?
mem wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 15:20
unfortunately Max tyres start to gone after that and if they could go faster Max could go faster but all of the 3 front drived would have to pit another time for tyres change.
Verstappen's four fastest laps were laps 26, 27, 28 and 29. Bottas extended his lead by 1.3 seconds over those laps.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 18:48
The RB16 is a strong car. It arguably is stronger than Mercedes in some conditions. Once Max learns to extract 100% from it he will there.
Definitely a strong car, but I fear the conditions it might be stronger than the Mercedes in would be relatively rare. I expect Verstappen to win another couple of races on merit this season (maybe more with good strategy gambles), but (unless the mode change really shakes things up) I think he'll struggle to do more than that in the RB16.

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Aside from mechanical issues or something weird happening to Hamilton, I don't see Max winning another race this season. Silverstone 2 was a one off.

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LM10 wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 23:11
PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 18:48
The RB16 is a strong car. It arguably is stronger than Mercedes in some conditions. Once Max learns to extract 100% from it he will there.
Which conditions?
Balloon Tires.
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Wynters wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 23:15
mem wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 15:20
actually Max from lap 15 to lap 25 never was more than 1.5s to Bottas
Apart from laps 16 annd 17? The screenshot you used shows the gaps at 1.695 and 1.898?
mem wrote:
03 Sep 2020, 15:20
unfortunately Max tyres start to gone after that and if they could go faster Max could go faster but all of the 3 front drived would have to pit another time for tyres change.
Verstappen's four fastest laps were laps 26, 27, 28 and 29. Bottas extended his lead by 1.3 seconds over those laps.
Absolutely. And you could see that the Mercs were just taking it easy on the straights. The gap opened (not unexpected) in the second sector and then across S3 Max came closer again...but never close enough to get into DRS. T1 already spoiled to a big degree what he gained in S3.
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Hoe do you see a car taking it easy on a straight? In a corner you can tell how much a driver is pushing but on a straight, what is your indication? They ran more wing so in S2 you win but on straights you are not as fast.

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I’m seriously looking forward to this race, I’ve really missed Monza!
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This is a very good chance for Ricci Djos! Good luck this weekend 👍

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Cheers, I’d say he’s got a good chance of a podium this weekend.
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