2020 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, September 4 - 6

[NathanOlder]

Just had a quick look, it was about 9 seconds. A tow from 9 seconds ?!? really ?

The Merc would need magical aero, to create a tow at that distance!

Which makes it all the more strange then why they didn't give a tow to one of their drivers when all other teams were fighting for one.

I suppose having the best car in the field gives them that luxury.

Exactly, plus it makes it a fight. and Equal fight.

[Wass85]

Maybe he was just too cautious to not leave the track knowing he was up by a lot?

Nearly cost him pole though, he was on for a mid 18.

He lost 0.128 to bottas in S3, and he lost 0.075 from his previous attempt. No drama's, maybe he pushed a little harder in S1 and 2, and didnt quite have the rears at the end of the lap. Bottas went the other way. Turns out Lewis was right.

The last sector is high speed, I doubt his rears cost him that time?

Probably went too conservative through parabolica, still enough to snatch pole.

[Moore77]

Tanabe is going to run the PU conservatively and Asaki will evaluate the damage after the race. Knowing Honda, they probably are running the first PU since they won't waste the newer PU on testing the single lap settings. AT might be running the newer PUs seeing that Gasly and Kvyat are now closer to q3 than before. Since all 4 need to run the same settings, Tanabe has to balance the reliability and race pace, it's not like they couldn't use higher modes, it's just that he doesn't yet know what kind of longevity that will leave for the PU until Sakura can evaluate it. It's still too early days for anyone to make definitive conclusion from one qualifying event.

The balance of car and pace will come from running on the medium and hard over the duration of the 2nd stint, and Max looked really good on the mediums.
Kvyat will have an advantageous strategy as well considering he had more pace but was hindered in Q2. There may be a two stop strategy in the cards depending on how long the softs last, safety car, and the track limits on turn 11 probably won't be an issue during the race. Rb16 has been skittish on low fuel weight too.

Did you not say that Tanabe and Newey are learning fast, in the Silverstone thread?
viewtopic.php?p=917512#p917512

Tanabe and Newey are making the most of this to accelerate development and PU calibration. They have done a better job at learning what is wrong with the car and adapting it than the arrogance of Mercedes who can't look at themselves honestly and admit they didn't do their homework thinking they were going to ace the test or at least set the curve.

Why are you now not saying that Honda should look at themselves and admit they didn't do their homework?

[Big Tea]

Merc still used Strat 2 today. I assume they changed its parameters though.

Do you have any evidence for this, because they would have to run it all through the race.

Bottas was told on his first outlap in Q1 to use Strat 2.

Apparently mode can be changed for out/in and safety car laps

[214270]

BOT got a tow from OCO in Q2; his laptime was 18.9. He was on his own in Q3, his laptime was 18.9 - that was his limit, it’s plain to see

[ispano6]

Tanabe is going to run the PU conservatively and Asaki will evaluate the damage after the race. Knowing Honda, they probably are running the first PU since they won't waste the newer PU on testing the single lap settings. AT might be running the newer PUs seeing that Gasly and Kvyat are now closer to q3 than before. Since all 4 need to run the same settings, Tanabe has to balance the reliability and race pace, it's not like they couldn't use higher modes, it's just that he doesn't yet know what kind of longevity that will leave for the PU until Sakura can evaluate it. It's still too early days for anyone to make definitive conclusion from one qualifying event.

The balance of car and pace will come from running on the medium and hard over the duration of the 2nd stint, and Max looked really good on the mediums.
Kvyat will have an advantageous strategy as well considering he had more pace but was hindered in Q2. There may be a two stop strategy in the cards depending on how long the softs last, safety car, and the track limits on turn 11 probably won't be an issue during the race. Rb16 has been skittish on low fuel weight too.

Did you not say that Tanabe and Newey are learning fast, in the Silverstone thread?
viewtopic.php?p=917512#p917512

Tanabe and Newey are making the most of this to accelerate development and PU calibration. They have done a better job at learning what is wrong with the car and adapting it than the arrogance of Mercedes who can't look at themselves honestly and admit they didn't do their homework thinking they were going to ace the test or at least set the curve.

Why are you now not saying that Honda should look at themselves and admit they didn't do their homework?

What are you even talking about. I'm saying they are doing their homework. Have to finish the race to finish their homework.

[dans79]

The last sector is high speed, I doubt his rears cost him that time?

Take a look at the number of people who had moments in Parabolica!

[MtthsMlw]

For someone to break the fastest lap record (in terms of avg. speed) in Bahrain 2 you would have to do a 48.247. So not gonna happen. Just in case someone wonders.

[Moore77]

Tanabe is going to run the PU conservatively and Asaki will evaluate the damage after the race. Knowing Honda, they probably are running the first PU since they won't waste the newer PU on testing the single lap settings. AT might be running the newer PUs seeing that Gasly and Kvyat are now closer to q3 than before. Since all 4 need to run the same settings, Tanabe has to balance the reliability and race pace, it's not like they couldn't use higher modes, it's just that he doesn't yet know what kind of longevity that will leave for the PU until Sakura can evaluate it. It's still too early days for anyone to make definitive conclusion from one qualifying event.

The balance of car and pace will come from running on the medium and hard over the duration of the 2nd stint, and Max looked really good on the mediums.
Kvyat will have an advantageous strategy as well considering he had more pace but was hindered in Q2. There may be a two stop strategy in the cards depending on how long the softs last, safety car, and the track limits on turn 11 probably won't be an issue during the race. Rb16 has been skittish on low fuel weight too.

Did you not say that Tanabe and Newey are learning fast, in the Silverstone thread?
viewtopic.php?p=917512#p917512

Tanabe and Newey are making the most of this to accelerate development and PU calibration. They have done a better job at learning what is wrong with the car and adapting it than the arrogance of Mercedes who can't look at themselves honestly and admit they didn't do their homework thinking they were going to ace the test or at least set the curve.

Why are you now not saying that Honda should look at themselves and admit they didn't do their homework?

What are you even talking about. I'm saying they are doing their homework. Have to finish the race to finish their homework.

OK. I will then come back after the race!

[Wass85]

The last sector is high speed, I doubt his rears cost him that time?

Take a look at the number of people who had moments in Parabolica!

If that's the case then it just shows how much Bottas is pushing Hamilton in qualifying.

I read on Twitter from a journalist that Hamilton looked really dejected in the press conference for some reason, wonder what that is.

[mkay]

Tanabe is going to run the PU conservatively and Asaki will evaluate the damage after the race. Knowing Honda, they probably are running the first PU since they won't waste the newer PU on testing the single lap settings. AT might be running the newer PUs seeing that Gasly and Kvyat are now closer to q3 than before. Since all 4 need to run the same settings, Tanabe has to balance the reliability and race pace, it's not like they couldn't use higher modes, it's just that he doesn't yet know what kind of longevity that will leave for the PU until Sakura can evaluate it. It's still too early days for anyone to make definitive conclusion from one qualifying event.

The balance of car and pace will come from running on the medium and hard over the duration of the 2nd stint, and Max looked really good on the mediums.
Kvyat will have an advantageous strategy as well considering he had more pace but was hindered in Q2. There may be a two stop strategy in the cards depending on how long the softs last, safety car, and the track limits on turn 11 probably won't be an issue during the race. Rb16 has been skittish on low fuel weight too.

Did you not say that Tanabe and Newey are learning fast, in the Silverstone thread?
viewtopic.php?p=917512#p917512

Tanabe and Newey are making the most of this to accelerate development and PU calibration. They have done a better job at learning what is wrong with the car and adapting it than the arrogance of Mercedes who can't look at themselves honestly and admit they didn't do their homework thinking they were going to ace the test or at least set the curve.

Why are you now not saying that Honda should look at themselves and admit they didn't do their homework?

What are you even talking about. I'm saying they are doing their homework. Have to finish the race to finish their homework.

This doesn't make sense. Verstappen is still in the hunt for the title, Horner and Marko have said as much. Therefore it doesn't make sense to take it easy around Monza when engine power matters so much around there.

Moreover, it was reported that BOTH Honda and Mercedes asked for a 1-week delay on the enforcement of the technical directive as they wanted more time to calibrate engine modes on the dynos.

[ispano6]

Did you not say that Tanabe and Newey are learning fast, in the Silverstone thread?
viewtopic.php?p=917512#p917512
Why are you now not saying that Honda should look at themselves and admit they didn't do their homework?

What are you even talking about. I'm saying they are doing their homework. Have to finish the race to finish their homework.

This doesn't make sense. Verstappen is still in the hunt for the title, Horner and Marko have said as much. Therefore it doesn't make sense to take it easy around Monza when engine power matters so much around there.

Moreover, it was reported that BOTH Honda and Mercedes asked for a 1-week delay on the enforcement of the technical directive as they wanted more time to calibrate engine modes on the dynos.

Did you notice Max's race pace? With tow and DRS it matters less where you start as long as you're not MB and not towing the train. Honda has said it won't use the power where and when it's not absolutely necessary. Being fast in a straight line with fresh tires over one lap doesn't translate to a first stint on a full tank on the same tires. You need to average it out over both stints.

[LM10]

Man, was I wrong by saying that in my opinion Max was going to be within 5 tenths of the fastest Mercedes.

The usage of party mode needs to be allowed again as soon as possible. Mercedes is going to absolutely wipe the floor with everyone tomorrow. They’ll be able to use the high engine mode for the whole race instead of cruising around like they would normally do to control engine wear and compensate for party mode being used in qualifying.

Wasn’t Redbull aware of that when they were pushing for this regulation?

[_cerber1]

[Shrieker]

Bottas insinuated that he did as did Button.

Sore loser. 9 seconds lol ffs.