You will know than me but didn't Max compete at a higher level and achieve more in karting?NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:01They both won pretty much everything they went in for. So both very impressive.
You will know than me but didn't Max compete at a higher level and achieve more in karting?NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:01They both won pretty much everything they went in for. So both very impressive.
I hope he breaks it at Germany because I couldn't think of a more uninspiring place than Sochi.NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:59Back on topic maybe now thats cleared up.
As for Schumachers records, when do we think the wins will fall, I think Sochi will be a Bottas win, so I feel Hamilton winning in Germany and Portugal will be when it happens.
He can't beat it in Sochi, he can only match it. He needs to win in Sochi to take the record in Germany.Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:03I hope he breaks it at Germany because I couldn't think of a more uninspiring place than Sochi.NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:59Back on topic maybe now thats cleared up.
As for Schumachers records, when do we think the wins will fall, I think Sochi will be a Bottas win, so I feel Hamilton winning in Germany and Portugal will be when it happens.
That's good then, winning in Germany would be nice for him.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:14He can't beat it in Sochi, he can only match it. He needs to win in Sochi to take the record in Germany.Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:03I hope he breaks it at Germany because I couldn't think of a more uninspiring place than Sochi.NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:59Back on topic maybe now thats cleared up.
As for Schumachers records, when do we think the wins will fall, I think Sochi will be a Bottas win, so I feel Hamilton winning in Germany and Portugal will be when it happens.
Taking the record from Michael in his own country has a nice feel to it. Seems apt to me.Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:16That's good then, winning in Germany would be nice for him.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:14He can't beat it in Sochi, he can only match it. He needs to win in Sochi to take the record in Germany.
Pretty sure they both won the top European Championship.Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:02You will know than me but didn't Max compete at a higher level and achieve more in karting?NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:01They both won pretty much everything they went in for. So both very impressive.
NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:53What ? In 2004 Hamilton was the highest placed 'rookie' in P5 (he never did any Euro F3 faces before) but didnt get the rookie cup because he competed in 2 British F3 races the year before. He then moved to Euro F3 and in his debut season finished P5 ahead of Perera who was P8 in that year. In 2005, Lewis won the championship winning 15 out of 20 races, Perera finished 4th with 0 wins.Moore77 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:16The point is the same for both guys. Volkswagen wasn't up to mark with Mercedes and required good driving skills to put where it belonged. Hamilton, despite having Mercedes engine at the back of both cars that he drove, could make impact only when he got the dominating machine. In 2004, Hamilton didn't finish as the best rookie, it was Frank Perera. Despite being in prema powered by Opel, Frank Perera improved from 8th in 2004 to 4th in 2005.NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:03
It was Volkeswagen not Opel, and the guy that finished 2nd in the championship (ahead of Max) had that same underpowered VW engine you speak about. Try another excuse maybe ?
Max finished P3, behind a car with the same engine, and behind another rookie.
Just a shame that it's going to be understated because of this virus, I hope to see some emotion from the man.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:17Taking the record from Michael in his own country has a nice feel to it. Seems apt to me.Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:16That's good then, winning in Germany would be nice for him.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:14
He can't beat it in Sochi, he can only match it. He needs to win in Sochi to take the record in Germany.
Please read my post, It clearly states the fact that it was Hamiltons first go in the Euro F3 championship. He was taken out of the Rookie Cup because he did 2 races the year before in the British F3 championship. Hamilton was still a rookie in the European F3 Championship.Moore77 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:34https://i.imgur.com/RMszJey.jpgNathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:53What ? In 2004 Hamilton was the highest placed 'rookie' in P5 (he never did any Euro F3 faces before) but didnt get the rookie cup because he competed in 2 British F3 races the year before. He then moved to Euro F3 and in his debut season finished P5 ahead of Perera who was P8 in that year. In 2005, Lewis won the championship winning 15 out of 20 races, Perera finished 4th with 0 wins.Moore77 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:16The point is the same for both guys. Volkswagen wasn't up to mark with Mercedes and required good driving skills to put where it belonged. Hamilton, despite having Mercedes engine at the back of both cars that he drove, could make impact only when he got the dominating machine. In 2004, Hamilton didn't finish as the best rookie, it was Frank Perera. Despite being in prema powered by Opel, Frank Perera improved from 8th in 2004 to 4th in 2005.
Max finished P3, behind a car with the same engine, and behind another rookie.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Fo ... uro_Series
That's the point, it wasn't his first go in F3 category and he succeeded in 3rd attempt. Whereas Max was a hit in first attempt.NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:39Please read my post, It clearly states the fact that it was Hamiltons first go in the Euro F3 championship. He was taken out of the Rookie Cup because he did 2 races the year before in the British F3 championship. Hamilton was still a rookie in the European F3 Championship.Moore77 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:34https://i.imgur.com/RMszJey.jpgNathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:53
What ? In 2004 Hamilton was the highest placed 'rookie' in P5 (he never did any Euro F3 faces before) but didnt get the rookie cup because he competed in 2 British F3 races the year before. He then moved to Euro F3 and in his debut season finished P5 ahead of Perera who was P8 in that year. In 2005, Lewis won the championship winning 15 out of 20 races, Perera finished 4th with 0 wins.
Max finished P3, behind a car with the same engine, and behind another rookie.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Fo ... uro_Series
Understated by ?Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:35Just a shame that it's going to be understated because of this virus, I hope to see some emotion from the man.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:17Taking the record from Michael in his own country has a nice feel to it. Seems apt to me.
3rd attempt, your a funny chap. a Rookie is someone who is new to the job. 2004 was the first time Lewis ever competed in the European F3 championship. He was a rookie. He just didnt qualify for the Rookie Cup under the rules as he had 2 races in a national cup the year before.Moore77 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:40That's the point, it wasn't his first go in F3 category and he succeeded in 3rd attempt. Whereas Max was a hit in first attempt.NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:39Please read my post, It clearly states the fact that it was Hamiltons first go in the Euro F3 championship. He was taken out of the Rookie Cup because he did 2 races the year before in the British F3 championship. Hamilton was still a rookie in the European F3 Championship.Moore77 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:34
https://i.imgur.com/RMszJey.jpg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Fo ... uro_Series
Have a think about it, the clue is in my post.NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:41Understated by ?Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:35Just a shame that it's going to be understated because of this virus, I hope to see some emotion from the man.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:17
Taking the record from Michael in his own country has a nice feel to it. Seems apt to me.
Hamilton's teammate finished 2nd when he won the F3 title, his teammate also finished 3rd when he won the GP2 title. Let's just agree that it's obvious that he's been in the best teams for the majority of his career.NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:463rd attempt, your a funny chap. a Rookie is someone who is new to the job. 2004 was the first time Lewis ever competed in the European F3 championship. He was a rookie. He just didnt qualify for the Rookie Cup under the rules as he had 2 races in a national cup the year before.Moore77 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:40That's the point, it wasn't his first go in F3 category and he succeeded in 3rd attempt. Whereas Max was a hit in first attempt.NathanOlder wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 12:39
Please read my post, It clearly states the fact that it was Hamiltons first go in the Euro F3 championship. He was taken out of the Rookie Cup because he did 2 races the year before in the British F3 championship. Hamilton was still a rookie in the European F3 Championship.
Either way, Lewis won the championship, Max did not. And please dont use VW as an excuse, Max wasnt even the top VW driver, so give up with this BS. Max cant save your Schumacher records, Lewis is about to smash them. Just take it on the chin and get on with it.
Hamilton is going to raise the bar, maybe this thread should be renamed 'How high will the bar be raised"