2020 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, September 25 - 27

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Alright guys, put your purses away. Enough slapping for one day.

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dans79 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 18:26
Pole lap is up!

And his middle sector wasn't his best so the ultimate lap was quicker still.
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Re: Hamilton starting on the Softs.

Sometimes, I think it benefits Merc to be the team needing to benefit from something like an early SC or VSC, rather than being out in front on the perfect tire, praying for nothing unusual to happen in the race (e.g., Monza).

Re: the race start - 2019 Ferrari strategy? Hamilton to help Bottas slingshot past and then block Verstappen? Would Bottas then concede the place to Hamilton if he then takes the lead?

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Coffee and choc chip cookies? Yes please! =P~

Best post ever on F1Technical. =D>
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Diesel wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 20:31
Anyone talking about the fact Red Bull tried to use Alpha Tauri to hold everyone up so they'd miss getting a lap after the restart? How is that legal? Shades of crash-gate if you ask me.
It was suspicious but not enough to be able to say it was some kind of cheating.
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turbof1 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 21:16

Alright guys, put your purses away. Enough slapping for one day.

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Racer X wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 21:44
Diesel wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 20:31
Anyone talking about the fact Red Bull tried to use Alpha Tauri to hold everyone up so they'd miss getting a lap after the restart? How is that legal? Shades of crash-gate if you ask me.
It was suspicious but not enough to be able to say it was some kind of cheating.
It's not allowed on entry to the pitlane, I think Norris got investigated for doing it recently when the team was trying to double stop? I don't see how this was any different, it was a pretty blatant attempt to try and put the cars behind at risk of not making it over the line. There's nothing wrong with Kvyat wanting to create a gap, but he can't do that on the exit of the pit lane and impede all of the drivers behind him. It seems Masi was too busy deleting people's lap times to even notice this :roll:

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Diesel wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 20:31
Anyone talking about the fact Red Bull tried to use Alpha Tauri to hold everyone up so they'd miss getting a lap after the restart? How is that legal? Shades of crash-gate if you ask me.
I also want to talk about chequered flag and red lights saying end of session when ham turning last turn.

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etusch wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 22:24
Diesel wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 20:31
Anyone talking about the fact Red Bull tried to use Alpha Tauri to hold everyone up so they'd miss getting a lap after the restart? How is that legal? Shades of crash-gate if you ask me.
I also want to talk about chequered flag and red lights saying end of session when ham turning last turn.
Nah, he got over the line in time.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 22:30
etusch wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 22:24
Diesel wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 20:31
Anyone talking about the fact Red Bull tried to use Alpha Tauri to hold everyone up so they'd miss getting a lap after the restart? How is that legal? Shades of crash-gate if you ask me.
I also want to talk about chequered flag and red lights saying end of session when ham turning last turn.
Nah, he got over the line in time.
https://streamable.com/r33w71
on tv they showed it from other side and when he turning flag and lights were on.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 22:30
etusch wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 22:24
Diesel wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 20:31
Anyone talking about the fact Red Bull tried to use Alpha Tauri to hold everyone up so they'd miss getting a lap after the restart? How is that legal? Shades of crash-gate if you ask me.
I also want to talk about chequered flag and red lights saying end of session when ham turning last turn.
Nah, he got over the line in time.
https://streamable.com/r33w71
The lights are quite a way on from the actual line. He had not passed the lights as they can be seen from his onboard, but so can the line. According to Sky, he made it by 1.5 sec

27 to 29 in the clip above.
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etusch wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 22:24
Diesel wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 20:31
Anyone talking about the fact Red Bull tried to use Alpha Tauri to hold everyone up so they'd miss getting a lap after the restart? How is that legal? Shades of crash-gate if you ask me.
I also want to talk about chequered flag and red lights saying end of session when ham turning last turn.
That didn’t happen though as he clearly made it over the line. Alpha Tauri sh**housing did.

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Big Tea wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 23:01
MtthsMlw wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 22:30
etusch wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 22:24


I also want to talk about chequered flag and red lights saying end of session when ham turning last turn.
Nah, he got over the line in time.
https://streamable.com/r33w71
The lights are quite a way on from the actual line. He had not passed the lights as they can be seen from his onboard, but so can the line. According to Sky, he made it by 1.5 sec

27 to 29 in the clip above.
Yeah it’s clear he is well over the line and clear by the time they come on.

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Diesel wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 22:02
Racer X wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 21:44
Diesel wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 20:31
Anyone talking about the fact Red Bull tried to use Alpha Tauri to hold everyone up so they'd miss getting a lap after the restart? How is that legal? Shades of crash-gate if you ask me.
It was suspicious but not enough to be able to say it was some kind of cheating.
It's not allowed on entry to the pitlane, I think Norris got investigated for doing it recently when the team was trying to double stop? I don't see how this was any different, it was a pretty blatant attempt to try and put the cars behind at risk of not making it over the line. There's nothing wrong with Kvyat wanting to create a gap, but he can't do that on the exit of the pit lane and impede all of the drivers behind him. It seems Masi was too busy deleting people's lap times to even notice this :roll:
Lewis got a penalty for driving too slowly in the pit lane during a race but both Leclerc and Vettel avoided penalties from driving too slow in quali for in lap and out lap last year. Leaving pit lane in quali is a first come first serve ordeal, and as long as the minimal average lap time is met there shouldn't be an issue, and in this case cars were parked waiting for the green. Mercedes could have put Ham front of the line but they didn't. Mercedes Boys could have easily done the same and tried to create a gap between the car in front. They could have "teamed up" with pink Mercedes and RedBull could have been left out all the same. Truth is AT weren't blocking anyone on a flyer and leaving pitlane exit from a red flag can't be timed as an enforcible out lap. It's a stretch to say RedBull had Alpha Tauri hold up the cars behind. Mercedes just didn't get things right and were flustered. It can happen, no one gets everything right always, even with all their brilliant engineers and strategists. Throw in some random chaos and you can get occasional brainfarts in logic.

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