I know there is a Honda thread but this is huge news which I thought needed its own thread.
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Honda has dropped a bomb in Formula One by revealing they are set to leave the sport at the end of 2021. The company's exit will mark the end of 7 years of racing, with mixed success, during the hybrid F1 era.
Thing is then, why would Renault be forced? Why not one of the other suppliers? All three have their own factory team, so all three should be equally be able to choose who they deliver to, or be equally restricted in that choice.Restomaniac wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 10:20Looking at it. It’s going to be a situation where Renault are forced to supply. However you can be certain RedBull will just get given the engines with no input allowed.
Easy: others already have their capacities full with teams they supply.DChemTech wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 10:30Thing is then, why would Renault be forced? Why not one of the other suppliers? All three have their own factory team, so all three should be equally be able to choose who they deliver to, or be equally restricted in that choice.Restomaniac wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 10:20Looking at it. It’s going to be a situation where Renault are forced to supply. However you can be certain RedBull will just get given the engines with no input allowed.
If nobody will (understandable) then the supplier with the least teams has too. That’s Renault by a long way. Remember in 2021 and after they supply nobody.DChemTech wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 10:30Thing is then, why would Renault be forced? Why not one of the other suppliers? All three have their own factory team, so all three should be equally be able to choose who they deliver to, or be equally restricted in that choice.Restomaniac wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 10:20Looking at it. It’s going to be a situation where Renault are forced to supply. However you can be certain RedBull will just get given the engines with no input allowed.
Well, Maybe in 2022, Haas is Mazepin F1, and maybe they want Renault. Then it's 2-2 Ferrari and Renault. My point was that it's not definitively Renault that should be forced, but that it's [an engine supplier] that should be forced, on [some criterion]. That criterion may logically be the number of customers they have, but since that can change, it doesn't make it definitive it should be Renault. And one could argue it's not even the right criterion.Cuky wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 10:34Easy: others already have their capacities full with teams they supply.DChemTech wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 10:30Thing is then, why would Renault be forced? Why not one of the other suppliers? All three have their own factory team, so all three should be equally be able to choose who they deliver to, or be equally restricted in that choice.Restomaniac wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 10:20Looking at it. It’s going to be a situation where Renault are forced to supply. However you can be certain RedBull will just get given the engines with no input allowed.
Mercedes: works team, Williams, Aston Martin, McLaren
Ferrari: works team, Alfa Romeo, Haas
Renault: works team
Those are the actual rules.DChemTech wrote: ↑02 Oct 2020, 10:41Well, Maybe in 2022, Haas is Mazepin F1, and maybe they want Renault. Then it's 2-2 Ferrari and Renault. My point was that it's not definitively Renault that should be forced, but that it's [an engine supplier] that should be forced, on [some criterion]. That criterion may logically be the number of customers they have, but since that can change, it doesn't make it definitive it should be Renault. And one could argue it's not even the right criterion.