2020 Eifel Grand Prix - Nürburgring, October 9-11

[SiLo]

Sector 3 is basically a chicane, and a painfully long and slow corner. Mark my words, Verstappen will smash sector 3 because of the tricks he knows regarding the chicane. The chicane exit has a dip in the road, and if you know the secret to that chicane vs someone who doesn't you can easily gain as much as .4 on that corner alone.

Is Max the only one who knows this trick? Others have raced at the circuit so maybe others also know how to maximise the time available.

Others know the track, and the details of that corner, but the trick is intuitive, and we've seen that the RB16 rides the bumps better than other cars. These two factors combined will see Verstappen nail that chicane. It's not enough to minimize tire slip on exit, there's a certain way to straight line it but it requires riding the kerbs in a certain way. Verstappen is the only one I've seen ride the kerbs in the 'correct' way consistently this year. Watch his Sochi Q3 onboard.

Can you explain what you mean by this dip? I honestly can't see one driver being 4 tenths faster than everyone else through 40 metres of track simply because they know some track clickbait.

This one little trick saved me almost half a second, I couldn't believe it!
Insert thumbnail of wide open mouth Max looking shocked

[El Scorchio]

Is Max the only one who knows this trick? Others have raced at the circuit so maybe others also know how to maximise the time available.

Others know the track, and the details of that corner, but the trick is intuitive, and we've seen that the RB16 rides the bumps better than other cars. These two factors combined will see Verstappen nail that chicane. It's not enough to minimize tire slip on exit, there's a certain way to straight line it but it requires riding the kerbs in a certain way. Verstappen is the only one I've seen ride the kerbs in the 'correct' way consistently this year. Watch his Sochi Q3 onboard.

Can you explain what you mean by this dip? I honestly can't see one driver being 4 tenths faster than everyone else through 40 metres of track simply because they know some track clickbait.

This one little trick saved me almost half a second, I couldn't believe it!
Insert thumbnail of wide open mouth Max looking shocked

Hahahaha!

'Residents of the Nürburgring are saving THIS much on laptimes.'
'He couldn't understand why everyone was staring.'

In all seriousness there's no 'trick' that only one driver will know and or be able to execute and make them .4 of a second faster through one corner. I hope it's competitive though and a bit more watchable than Sochi.

Note to stewards- please don't decide the result of the race before it begins again please.

[Mchamilton]

if we get any racing like this it'll be a good one

[Just_a_fan]

if we get any racing like this it'll be a good one

Cor, Petrov was just fast enough to be annoying wasn't he?

Some nice moves by Michael. Good awareness by most of the drivers, too.

Yes, a race like that would be a good thing, wouldn't it.

[godlameroso]

Is Max the only one who knows this trick? Others have raced at the circuit so maybe others also know how to maximise the time available.

Others know the track, and the details of that corner, but the trick is intuitive, and we've seen that the RB16 rides the bumps better than other cars. These two factors combined will see Verstappen nail that chicane. It's not enough to minimize tire slip on exit, there's a certain way to straight line it but it requires riding the kerbs in a certain way. Verstappen is the only one I've seen ride the kerbs in the 'correct' way consistently this year. Watch his Sochi Q3 onboard.

Can you explain what you mean by this dip? I honestly can't see one driver being 4 tenths faster than everyone else through 40 metres of track simply because they know some track clickbait.

This one little trick saved me almost half a second, I couldn't believe it!
Insert thumbnail of wide open mouth Max looking shocked

I said it's worth up to .4 not that Verstappen would have a .4 advantage on that corner alone. The 'up to' is the important part, which is the difference between getting it just right and a little wrong. Because it's such a precision corner, and because of how you need to ride the kerbs he will have a small advantage there.

[godlameroso]

Is Max the only one who knows this trick? Others have raced at the circuit so maybe others also know how to maximise the time available.

Others know the track, and the details of that corner, but the trick is intuitive, and we've seen that the RB16 rides the bumps better than other cars. These two factors combined will see Verstappen nail that chicane. It's not enough to minimize tire slip on exit, there's a certain way to straight line it but it requires riding the kerbs in a certain way. Verstappen is the only one I've seen ride the kerbs in the 'correct' way consistently this year. Watch his Sochi Q3 onboard.

Too bad you've just told everyone about his "secret"

Did I? I just point out Verstappen will be fast there, I didn't say how exactly, and just because it's a trick doesn't automatically mean everyone else can do it.

The chicane requires very heavy braking, you're going slightly uphill, but on the first apex the road begins leveling, in essence launching the car in the air, and the exit of the second one has a slight curve to the right and is slightly off camber. Also on corner exit there's a small dip ~2mm, everything that could exist to unstable the car through the chicane is there, so it takes an incredible amount of precision to nail it.

[i70q7m7ghw]

Too bad you've just told everyone about his "secret"

Did I? I just point out Verstappen will be fast there, I didn't say how exactly, and just because it's a trick doesn't automatically mean everyone else can do it.

The chicane requires very heavy braking, you're going slightly uphill, but on the first apex the road begins leveling, in essence launching the car in the air, and the exit of the second one has a slight curve to the right and is slightly off camber. Also on corner exit there's a small dip ~2mm, everything that could exist to unstable the car through the chicane is there, so it takes an incredible amount of precision to nail it.

godlameroso: I didn't reveal his secret

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godlameroso: But here's the secret...

[SiLo]

Too bad you've just told everyone about his "secret"

Did I? I just point out Verstappen will be fast there, I didn't say how exactly, and just because it's a trick doesn't automatically mean everyone else can do it.

The chicane requires very heavy braking, you're going slightly uphill, but on the first apex the road begins leveling, in essence launching the car in the air, and the exit of the second one has a slight curve to the right and is slightly off camber. Also on corner exit there's a small dip ~2mm, everything that could exist to unstable the car through the chicane is there, so it takes an incredible amount of precision to nail it.

godlameroso: I didn't reveal his secret

...

godlameroso: But here's the secret...

How does he know there is a 2mm dip?

[Mchamilton]

Others know the track, and the details of that corner, but the trick is intuitive, and we've seen that the RB16 rides the bumps better than other cars. These two factors combined will see Verstappen nail that chicane. It's not enough to minimize tire slip on exit, there's a certain way to straight line it but it requires riding the kerbs in a certain way. Verstappen is the only one I've seen ride the kerbs in the 'correct' way consistently this year. Watch his Sochi Q3 onboard.

Too bad you've just told everyone about his "secret"

Did I? I just point out Verstappen will be fast there, I didn't say how exactly, and just because it's a trick doesn't automatically mean everyone else can do it.

The chicane requires very heavy braking, you're going slightly uphill, but on the first apex the road begins leveling, in essence launching the car in the air, and the exit of the second one has a slight curve to the right and is slightly off camber. Also on corner exit there's a small dip ~2mm, everything that could exist to unstable the car through the chicane is there, so it takes an incredible amount of precision to nail it.

have you laser scanned the track youself or something?

[SiLo]

Too bad you've just told everyone about his "secret"

Did I? I just point out Verstappen will be fast there, I didn't say how exactly, and just because it's a trick doesn't automatically mean everyone else can do it.

The chicane requires very heavy braking, you're going slightly uphill, but on the first apex the road begins leveling, in essence launching the car in the air, and the exit of the second one has a slight curve to the right and is slightly off camber. Also on corner exit there's a small dip ~2mm, everything that could exist to unstable the car through the chicane is there, so it takes an incredible amount of precision to nail it.

have you laser scanned the track youself or something?
talking out your arse i reckon

You can check out Hamiltons 2011 front row lap for how to nail that last sector.

[NathanOlder]

Not sure if its been pointed out before , but I have just noticed a fun fact in the points standings.

Bottas is 44pts behind Lewis.
Bottas is 33pts ahead of Max.
Lewis is 77pts ahead of Max.

What a trio

[hollus]

Bottas is 44pts behind Lewis.
Bottas is 33pts ahead of Max.
Lewis is 77pts ahead of Max.

OOOOOOOOOOO
MMMMMMMMMM
GGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!

[dtro]

Pole in the high 1.23s low 1.24s?

To take a second away from the who has the best laser scanned Nurburgring on their computer thing...

[Mogster]

Pole in the high 1.23s low 1.24s?

To take a second away from the who has the best laser scanned Nurburgring on their computer thing...

Depends if the bump in the last sector is modelled correctly...

[godlameroso]

Pole in the high 1.23s low 1.24s?

To take a second away from the who has the best laser scanned Nurburgring on their computer thing...

High to mid 24's about 5 seconds faster than the last time they were here.

Merc race pace starting in the 32s.