There are a few other headlines in that site. But those struck me as silly season gossip so i only quoted those 2.Steiner on Ferrari: "If the engine doesn't get better F...(engines)"
In the coming year he expects increases or? will they search for an alternative?
(Translated to English by a website so it might be wrong i dont speak German.)
AND
Steiner: No discussions with Hulkenberg at the moment
True, but that runs the risk of another seat being available further up the grid. Would Perez commit to Williams when other seats will open up. As an example Renault would have a seat.Jolle wrote: ↑19 Oct 2020, 19:41Other possibility: have Russell with Mercedes money and PU racing for 2021 and Perez as a third driver, with a guaranteed drive in 2022. That way Williams losses are minimal.Big Tea wrote: ↑19 Oct 2020, 18:56How would they stand with Merc engines then though? Or are that considering Renault?NathanOlder wrote: ↑19 Oct 2020, 18:54Surely Perez's money can easily pay off Russell. and then you can have Perez sign a 2yr or 3yr deal. So they have the Perez money for a few years and a very strong driver for a few years too. If they stick with Russell, they have a very strong driver for 1 year, then they have nothing and have to hope bdor a top driver. Right now Perez is probably desperate, so they should take full advantage of that.
Yeah that's basically it.Racer X wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020, 08:26There are a few other headlines in that site. But those struck me as silly season gossip so i only quoted those 2.Steiner on Ferrari: "If the engine doesn't get better F...(engines)"
In the coming year he expects increases or? will they search for an alternative?
(Translated to English by a website so it might be wrong i dont speak German.)
AND
Steiner: No discussions with Hulkenberg at the moment
Dude next time put a but of context to your link lol... Maybe?
If this is happening Perez would not wait for George like that. If the Williams things are true its Perez in and some one else out. He was just screwed the exact same way and he took it like a man he was polite and understood that its business so what ever ethics he might have had. Are now gone hes not going to wait for George.NathanOlder wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020, 09:01True, but that runs the risk of another seat being available further up the grid. Would Perez commit to Williams when other seats will open up. As an example Renault would have a seat.
Grosjean and Magnussen will not continue with Haas in 2021
17Raymond Blancafort | 20 Oct 2020 - 15:21
Haas has decided to dispense with its two current drivers, Romain Grosjean and Kevin Magnussen, for its 2021 driver line-up.
The team has already informed both of them and an official announcement is expected even before the Portuguese Grand Prix.
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Finally, as SoyMotor.com has learned, the decision has been clear and drastic.
Yeah, Haas seems to really need some pay drivers ...Wouter wrote: ↑20 Oct 2020, 17:30https://soymotor.com/noticias/grosjean- ... 021-981494
Grosjean and Magnussen will not continue with Haas in 2021
17Raymond Blancafort | 20 Oct 2020 - 15:21
Haas has decided to dispense with its two current drivers, Romain Grosjean and Kevin Magnussen, for its 2021 driver line-up.
The team has already informed both of them and an official announcement is expected even before the Portuguese Grand Prix.
.............
Finally, as SoyMotor.com has learned, the decision has been clear and drastic.
I think that's a bit harsh on Kevin. He did end royally behind Button in the overall points, but the McLaren wasn't exactly a top car that year. Button and Kmag had an equal number of podiums (1). Compare that with Albon vs. Max now - Max ended every race that he did not retire on the podium, including one win. Albon scored a podium once so far. Not saying Kmag is a great driver, but he's not as terrible as you make it sound I think.Manoah2u wrote: ↑21 Oct 2020, 10:12Albon has shown he is incapable, he should have had that RBR at podium area, he's miles off. He's arguably worse than Bottas in the Merc, which to me just shows that indeed, it's not just the car that makes the championship. That said, Magnussen despite back then being a rookie didn't do much good in the Mclaren either. I think his podium @Mclaren is comparable as the podium Albon managed with RBR. I'd concider both of similar 'potential', with the difference that KMag is far more experienced and matured, and Albon much more sensitive and as such being able to be influenced. Neither will be a step forward. I think they're both VanDoorne types. All better than Palmer for example, but let's concider them midfield drivers. The second RBR seat needs drivers like Ricciardo, Raikkonen, Verstappen, Hamilton, yes even Bottas, Rosberg, Vettel, Norris, Sainz, and probably Perez. Probably Russell too, but it's hard to judge him yet. Which drivers are left then that are 'on it's way'? Perhaps Mick Schumacher, but to be honest, I rather think he's going to be like Bruno Senna. Good, but not probably simply not good enough.
On a side note though, I think Bruno deserved and should have stayed in F1 much more time and see his real potential.
People tend to forget he left motorsports for almost a decade or so, and then suddenly came back and found his way rapid into the F1 field.
IMHO that was pretty impressive, regardless of his famous heritage.
Also, he also ran into bad luck, being replaced and replaced by being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
The saddest part of it is he was meant to debut in 2009 @ BrawnGP (Honda), had Brawn decided to keep him instead of replace him with Rubens,
things would have went down probably a lot different, and we might even have seen Bruno Senna go for the WDC, atleast he would have been P2.
That would have given him plenty of picks to choose from. Perhaps he himself could have gone to Mclaren alongside Hamilton, which surely would
have tested his capabilities to the fullest. I still think if he really was anywhere as good, it would have shown, but who knows.
I have huge doubts he was replaced because he didn't have the talent, rather because he did not bring enough sponsor money or a big 'wallet',
and there was no room for him @ RedBull/ToroRosso. Guys like Kobayashi also got ditched because of their lack of dough in their Wallet.
If I had to pick two drivers in the past decade that i would have wanted to see stay in F1 longer to see their 'true' potential, it would have been
Bruno Senna and Kamui Kobayashi. Two of the biggest losses we had in F1 imho, due to no reason but sponsorship money.
Instead, we got a guy like Kevin Magnussen @ Mclaren. We've had a Palmer in a Renault. We had a Ericsson @ Sauber. We had a Guiterrez @ Sauber.
We had Hartley @ Toro Rosso. We've had Sirotkin @ Williams. We have Stroll. We have Latifi. We've had Grosjean for YEARS!!!! in F1. And it's a matter
of time when Mazepin will join the daddy-son business cahoots in F1.
Although he had a bad rep at the time, I wonder how Chilton would have done had he got a mid field drive.Manoah2u wrote: ↑21 Oct 2020, 10:12Albon has shown he is incapable, he should have had that RBR at podium area, he's miles off. He's arguably worse than Bottas in the Merc, which to me just shows that indeed, it's not just the car that makes the championship. That said, Magnussen despite back then being a rookie didn't do much good in the Mclaren either. I think his podium @Mclaren is comparable as the podium Albon managed with RBR. I'd concider both of similar 'potential', with the difference that KMag is far more experienced and matured, and Albon much more sensitive and as such being able to be influenced. Neither will be a step forward. I think they're both VanDoorne types. All better than Palmer for example, but let's concider them midfield drivers. The second RBR seat needs drivers like Ricciardo, Raikkonen, Verstappen, Hamilton, yes even Bottas, Rosberg, Vettel, Norris, Sainz, and probably Perez. Probably Russell too, but it's hard to judge him yet. Which drivers are left then that are 'on it's way'? Perhaps Mick Schumacher, but to be honest, I rather think he's going to be like Bruno Senna. Good, but not probably simply not good enough.
On a side note though, I think Bruno deserved and should have stayed in F1 much more time and see his real potential.
People tend to forget he left motorsports for almost a decade or so, and then suddenly came back and found his way rapid into the F1 field.
IMHO that was pretty impressive, regardless of his famous heritage.
Also, he also ran into bad luck, being replaced and replaced by being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
The saddest part of it is he was meant to debut in 2009 @ BrawnGP (Honda), had Brawn decided to keep him instead of replace him with Rubens,
things would have went down probably a lot different, and we might even have seen Bruno Senna go for the WDC, atleast he would have been P2.
That would have given him plenty of picks to choose from. Perhaps he himself could have gone to Mclaren alongside Hamilton, which surely would
have tested his capabilities to the fullest. I still think if he really was anywhere as good, it would have shown, but who knows.
I have huge doubts he was replaced because he didn't have the talent, rather because he did not bring enough sponsor money or a big 'wallet',
and there was no room for him @ RedBull/ToroRosso. Guys like Kobayashi also got ditched because of their lack of dough in their Wallet.
If I had to pick two drivers in the past decade that i would have wanted to see stay in F1 longer to see their 'true' potential, it would have been
Bruno Senna and Kamui Kobayashi. Two of the biggest losses we had in F1 imho, due to no reason but sponsorship money.
Instead, we got a guy like Kevin Magnussen @ Mclaren. We've had a Palmer in a Renault. We had a Ericsson @ Sauber. We had a Guiterrez @ Sauber.
We had Hartley @ Toro Rosso. We've had Sirotkin @ Williams. We have Stroll. We have Latifi. We've had Grosjean for YEARS!!!! in F1. And it's a matter
of time when Mazepin will join the daddy-son business cahoots in F1.