On the final day of testing at the Bahrain International Circuit, Ferrari's Felipe Massa was the fastest man on track. The Brazilian was faster than BMW Sauber's Nick Heidfeld and Toyota's Timo Glock.
Spoken like a true internet engineer. Because he doesn't think they will be there, he feels that he can argue up and down that it is the truth.djos wrote:Unsprung weight is the enemy of all race cars - do you really think that MacMerc would bother spending $1,000 USD per super light weight wheel nut and vast sums of money on wheels that are so light and fragile that they frequently fail when putting a tyre on them and cant be used more than once only to add unsprung weight back again?
I dont and just like last year, the wheel fairings will vanish once testing ends!
Ah yes, when a logical argument comes out on top and you dont agree, insult the poster ... classy! [-XConceptual wrote: Spoken like a true internet engineer. Because he doesn't think they will be there, he feels that he can argue up and down that it is the truth.
Dude, if you phrase that stuff like "Well, I still don't think that they will be there in Aus..."
Once again, the definition of bigotry. Is it really fun?
Logical arguments when you have zero basis in reality, and are by definition bigotry. Instead of getting all pissy, how about you increase your vocabulary, take a more modest tone, and not make factual statements unless you have something other than your personal speculation to base it upon. Don't serve your hypothesis as fact. It shows ignorance, and bigotry.djos wrote:Ah yes, when a logical argument comes out on top and you dont agree, insult the poster ... classy! [-XConceptual wrote: Spoken like a true internet engineer. Because he doesn't think they will be there, he feels that he can argue up and down that it is the truth.
Dude, if you phrase that stuff like "Well, I still don't think that they will be there in Aus..."
Once again, the definition of bigotry. Is it really fun?
Logical arguments when you have zero basis in reality, and are by definition bigotry. Instead of getting all pissy, how about you increase your vocabulary, take a more modest tone, and not make factual statements unless you have something other than your personal speculation to base it upon. Don't serve your hypothesis as fact. It shows ignorance, and bigotry.Ah yes, when a logical argument comes out on top and you dont agree, insult the poster ... classy! [-XSpoken like a true internet engineer. Because he doesn't think they will be there, he feels that he can argue up and down that it is the truth.
Dude, if you phrase that stuff like "Well, I still don't think that they will be there in Aus..."
Once again, the definition of bigotry. Is it really fun?
I'm sorry if you didn't know, but it is time to grow up, and back up your statements with fact, not fantasy.
--the whole lot of it. Grow up yourself, if the fairings provide the level of Aero benefit you and others believe, then why has no other team bothered running their own versions of the McLaren fairings despite this concept being around for more than 12 months?Conceptual wrote: Logical arguments when you have zero basis in reality, and are by definition bigotry. Instead of getting all pissy, how about you increase your vocabulary, take a more modest tone, and not make factual statements unless you have something other than your personal speculation to base it upon. Don't serve your hypothesis as fact. It shows ignorance, and bigotry.
I'm sorry if you didn't know, but it is time to grow up, and back up your statements with fact, not fantasy.
McLaren would hardly have spent time on the outer rim extensions, moulding them into and *improving* the brake cooling flow if they were going to ditch them. They are here to stay, a full integrated part of the wheel setup. Accept it a move on, it's really not that big a deal.djos wrote: Grow up yourself, if the fairings provide the level of Aero benefit you and others believe, then why has no other team bothered running their own versions of the McLaren fairings despite this concept being around for more than 12 months?
I'll tell you why, they are only good for testing purposes as a sensor package; im sure all the other teams have looked at them and rejected them as being too heavy (unsprung weight again) and not enough of an improvement over the more conventional wheel covers to be worth the weight and track width penalties.
LOL - It's all attached...comes off with the nut.djos wrote:I can give you one more good reason why the outer ones wont be raced; Pit stops, those would be a royal PITA to get off and back on compared to the current rim shields.
Exactly my point, have you watched the wheel gun guy's handling the current ones? The circular nature allows them to spin behind a clear Perspex shield while the gun is fixing the wheel nut, once this is complete they rotate the wheel rim in to lock it in place.axle wrote:LOL - It's all attached...comes off with the nut.djos wrote:I can give you one more good reason why the outer ones wont be raced; Pit stops, those would be a royal PITA to get off and back on compared to the current rim shields.
If anything these are easier, they clearly only face on direction so theres a smaller chance of them going on wrong. This is a Formula 1 team my friend, you really do think they are a bunch of clueless amatuers don't you? So when is the djos F1 team starting? I hear you'll be the engineer, driver & CEO!djos wrote:I can give you one more good reason why the outer ones wont be raced; Pit stops, those would be a royal PITA to get off and back on compared to the current rim shields.
Yeap.djos wrote:Unsprung weight is the enemy of all race cars - do you really think that MacMerc would bother spending $1,000 USD per super light weight wheel nut and vast sums of money on wheels that are so light and fragile that they frequently fail when putting a tyre on them and cant be used more than once only to add unsprung weight back again?
