2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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Hoffman900 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:41
Sieper wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:39
El Scorchio wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:27
Hahahahaha Albon thinks someone hit him. I feel sorry for him really.
He was slightly touched on his rear wheel. Just enough to upset the car.
That’s not what I saw in the replay. Link?

That was a solo spin and he was almost collected by a Mclaren, but he was already sideways then.
is one of you talking about the beginning of the race and one of you the end of the race?
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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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dans79 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:43
Hoffman900 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:41
Sieper wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:39


He was slightly touched on his rear wheel. Just enough to upset the car.
That’s not what I saw in the replay. Link?

That was a solo spin and he was almost collected by a Mclaren, but he was already sideways then.
is one of you talking about the beginning of the race and one of you the end of the race?
The end. Missed the train of discussion of discussing earlier.

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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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Hoffman900 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:45
dans79 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:43
Hoffman900 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:41


That’s not what I saw in the replay. Link?

That was a solo spin and he was almost collected by a Mclaren, but he was already sideways then.
is one of you talking about the beginning of the race and one of you the end of the race?
The end. Missed the train of discussion of discussing earlier.
I too, the spin at the end, look in the chicane, just a slight touch bringing him off line, unstable.

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LM10 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:05
PlatinumZealot wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 15:55
Karma for Max for dissing disabled people and the people of Mongolia! :idea:
I highly doubt he dissed them on purpose. He didn't even know the meaning of it. Maybe just stop provocing.
Fact of the matter is that it is just a very common dutch word for calling someone an idiot ..
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A lot of people have been bigging up Russell here, and I always thought it was not for good reason. He hasn't had a half decent team mate as a benchmark. Robert had half an arm missing, and Latifi has been horrible most of the time. I don't consider beating those two the entire time merits much, if anything.

His SC crash today also reminded me of Button @ Monza 2000. Which gives me a sneaking feeling that he will be as good as Button was (in relative terms), tops.
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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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langedweil wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 17:00
LM10 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:05
PlatinumZealot wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 15:55
Karma for Max for dissing disabled people and the people of Mongolia! :idea:
I highly doubt he dissed them on purpose. He didn't even know the meaning of it. Maybe just stop provocing.
Fact of the matter is that it is just a very common dutch word for calling someone an idiot ..
Yeah this was made a meal out of by the goddamn PC culture, which is the cancer of social media.
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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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Sieper wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:49
Hoffman900 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:45
dans79 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:43


is one of you talking about the beginning of the race and one of you the end of the race?
The end. Missed the train of discussion of discussing earlier.
I too, the spin at the end, look in the chicane, just a slight touch bringing him off line, unstable.
I dont see it. If there was a slight touch, it was before Chicane entry and it does not seem to destabilize his car. No way that affected his spin, that was driver error 100% imo
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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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Yeah there was zero contact there. Classic power on oversteer. Go to any race track and see how many tire marks there are at corner exit spinning to the inside... there are a lot.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 17:05
Yeah there was zero contact there. Classic power on oversteer. Go to any race track and see how many tire marks there are at corner exit spinning to the inside.
Yup, much like Seb's sBinalla in Bahrain 2019 (and many of my spins in F1 2020 when TC is off :D )
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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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koenigzig wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 17:03
Sieper wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:49
Hoffman900 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:45


The end. Missed the train of discussion of discussing earlier.
I too, the spin at the end, look in the chicane, just a slight touch bringing him off line, unstable.
I dont see it. If there was a slight touch, it was before Chicane entry and it does not seem to destabilize his car. No way that affected his spin, that was driver error 100% imo
From the front angle I think I see a slight touch just before exit. It just takes a lot to control the car, especially on cold tires. Not saying Albon is quite up there, and especially this instability is what causing the problem for him.

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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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It was a wake induced Vettelesque type of spin.

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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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koenigzig wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 17:07
Hoffman900 wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 17:05
Yeah there was zero contact there. Classic power on oversteer. Go to any race track and see how many tire marks there are at corner exit spinning to the inside.
Yup, much like Seb's sBinalla in Bahrain 2019 (and many of my spins in F1 2020 when TC is off :D )
It’s very common through all motorsports!

Wake could have played a role, but everyone else is dealing with the same thing, and these guys have been racing with downforce through the Jr. series and know what happens when you’re overtaken and to be mindful of it.
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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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Wonder what Seb will be worried about. The pit stop or Racing Point's strategy for Perez today.
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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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Schuttelberg wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 17:13
Wonder what Seb will be worried about. The pit stop or Racing Point's strategy for Perez today.
He should be worried about just being faster than Stroll.

Maybe Ferrari isn’t giving him all the goods, but I also think Vettel isn’t up to his old self, whether intentional to make Ferrari look bad (or at least to try to make more excuses for why Charles beats him) or he’s in a mental rut. Once you lose it, it’ll tell you the type of guy he is if he can get it back. He doesn’t seem to be the fighter, grit it out, type. Lewis is, seems to be the guy who internalizes it and comes back stronger. Vettel appears to be mentally fragile.
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Re: 2020 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Oct 31 - Nov 01

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Sieper wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 17:08
koenigzig wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 17:03
Sieper wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 16:49


I too, the spin at the end, look in the chicane, just a slight touch bringing him off line, unstable.
I dont see it. If there was a slight touch, it was before Chicane entry and it does not seem to destabilize his car. No way that affected his spin, that was driver error 100% imo
From the front angle I think I see a slight touch just before exit. It just takes a lot to control the car, especially on cold tires. Not saying Albon is quite up there, and especially this instability is what causing the problem for him.
You seeing contact where? Im not seeing Albon do anything other than showing his lack of talent.
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