Silly Season 2020/2021 (starting with silliness in 2019)

[Just_a_fan]

How about this:
Honda sells IP for the PU to Red Bull, Red Bull 'enlists' Cosworth to further develop it.

Thoughts?

Cosworth haven't built a decent F1 engine for about 25 years...I'd be tempted to talk to Ilmor first.

Let's just ignore the fact they're building a V12 for AstonMartin Valkyrie and for the Gordon Murray T50.
Let's completely ignore what Cosworth has been doing road-relevant for the past decades.

neither of which is a hybrid V6 turbo...

Also, let's ignore completely that Ilmor actually is responsible for the Mercedes V6, and that Mario Illien was unsuccessful to fix the Honda engine vibrations and instead it was fixed by HondaJet.

Ilmor didn't do the Merc V6 but never mind.

Also just think for a minor second what engine the Williams is having in the back, and where they are in the championship. Does that prove the Merc engine is trash? no it doesnt. Williams is trash.

Weird nonsense straw man argument ignored

Now let that sink in and concider the 'cosworth' engines in the back of the lotus/caterhams. Were they bad?
Who were their rivals? Ah, Manor. What engine did manor use? Ferrari. OOOh ookaaay, Cosworth was SSOOOO bad.

Again rubbish argument.

Imagine if Cosworth was able to plant or given funds to plant a couple hundred million euro's more in that V8 engine back then, and now imagine that engine was in the Mclaren, or in the Genii, or hell in the RedBull.

Don't be so shortsighted.

Another irrelevant argument.

The truth is that Cosworth haven't made a competitive F1 engine for 25 years. The last time they were in F1 they were laughed out of F1.

So, what was your point again?

[Manoah2u]

Cosworth haven't built a decent F1 engine for about 25 years...I'd be tempted to talk to Ilmor first.

Let's just ignore the fact they're building a V12 for AstonMartin Valkyrie and for the Gordon Murray T50.
Let's completely ignore what Cosworth has been doing road-relevant for the past decades.

neither of which is a hybrid V6 turbo...

Also, let's ignore completely that Ilmor actually is responsible for the Mercedes V6, and that Mario Illien was unsuccessful to fix the Honda engine vibrations and instead it was fixed by HondaJet.

Ilmor didn't do the Merc V6 but never mind.

Also just think for a minor second what engine the Williams is having in the back, and where they are in the championship. Does that prove the Merc engine is trash? no it doesnt. Williams is trash.

Weird nonsense straw man argument ignored

Now let that sink in and concider the 'cosworth' engines in the back of the lotus/caterhams. Were they bad?
Who were their rivals? Ah, Manor. What engine did manor use? Ferrari. OOOh ookaaay, Cosworth was SSOOOO bad.

Again rubbish argument.

Imagine if Cosworth was able to plant or given funds to plant a couple hundred million euro's more in that V8 engine back then, and now imagine that engine was in the Mclaren, or in the Genii, or hell in the RedBull.

Don't be so shortsighted.

Another irrelevant argument.

The truth is that Cosworth haven't made a competitive F1 engine for 25 years. The last time they were in F1 they were laughed out of F1.

So, what was your point again?

that you're talking rubbish and and can only reply in a rubbish disrespectfull manner without actually responding.

If you don't even know the Ilmor-Mercedes link than don't even bother replying as you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

the only thing being laughed at is your rediculous claims.

[Just_a_fan]

that you're talking rubbish and and can only reply in a rubbish disrespectfull manner without actually responding.

If you don't even know the Ilmor-Mercedes link than don't even bother replying as you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

the only thing being laughed at is your rediculous claims.

Ignoring the irony of being called disrespectful by you, the link between Ilmor and Mercedes is well known. The current company called Ilmor split from the bit that Mercedes bought back in 2005. That's years before the V6 hybrids were even thought of, let alone actually designed.

From Ilmor themselves:

In late 2002, Mercedes-Benz elected to begin a phased buyout of Ilmor. The Special Projects Group found that this limited opportunities to expand its business portfolio and so Roger and Mario elected to buy Special Projects from Mercedes, along with the Ilmor name. This was accomplished by the end of June 2005 and a new Ilmor was born. Ilmor is now led by Steve Miller, an engineer with more than two decades of success in US racing.

http://www.ilmor.co.uk/profile/history

So, as I said, Ilmor had nothing to do with the Mercedes V6 hybrid.

[FrukostScones]

HAM to take a sabbatical from Merc at Red Bull next year.

edit: and if not, they keep ALB.

[PlatinumZealot]

RedBull too loyal to Max to risk Hamilton joining them. That would make the driver program look like a house of cards. Not while marko's eye is still open.

[nzjrs]

RedBull too loyal to Max to risk Hamilton joining them. That would make the driver program look like a house of cards. Not while marko's eye is still open.

You know, some people (not I) might consider that Marko joke as reprehensible as a Mongol joke.

[lio007]

[NathanOlder]

RedBull too loyal to Max to risk Hamilton joining them. That would make the driver program look like a house of cards. Not while marko's eye is still open.

You know, some people (not I) might consider that Marko joke as reprehensible as a Mongol joke.

They may well do. At least PZ isn't a top athlete with millions of fans and millions of children looking up at their idol in a sport broadcast to the world. (no disrespect to you PZ)

[Racer X]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/El_mTaPWkAA ... name=large

He has experience with A Honda PU... Nice...

[Big Tea]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/El_mTaPWkAA ... name=large

He has experience with A Honda PU... Nice...

But he is driving a Scarlet machine. Is he telling us something? He also has a emoji of Helmut so that really spreads it about

[Jolle]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/El_mTaPWkAA ... name=large

"not what I had in mind when I signed my test driver contract...."

[Just_a_fan]

RedBull too loyal to Max to risk Hamilton joining them. That would make the driver program look like a house of cards. Not while marko's eye is still open.

You know, some people (not I) might consider that Marko joke as reprehensible as a Mongol joke.

An injury received whilst doing something dangerous is not the same as a disability that one was born with. Being healthy and risking all opens one to ridicule. Being born disabled does not.

That one has to explain this is troubling.

[PlatinumZealot]

RedBull too loyal to Max to risk Hamilton joining them. That would make the driver program look like a house of cards. Not while marko's eye is still open.

You know, some people (not I) might consider that Marko joke as reprehensible as a Mongol joke.

It is lighthearted. Marko himself is the king of reprehensible when it comes to dishing out. Remember his covid camp?

Doesn't compare to denigrating two populations of people.

[nzjrs]

RedBull too loyal to Max to risk Hamilton joining them. That would make the driver program look like a house of cards. Not while marko's eye is still open.

You know, some people (not I) might consider that Marko joke as reprehensible as a Mongol joke.

An injury received whilst doing something dangerous is not the same as a disability that one was born with. Being healthy and risking all opens one to ridicule. Being born disabled does not.

That one has to explain this is troubling.

I personally don't care, but l know how the population who care about this sort of thing think.

They would disagree with you about your distinction by the way.

(even the word disability has be problematized and recast as dis/ability fwiw. It's hard to keep up I admit)

[nzjrs]

Doesn't compare to denigrating two populations of people.

I don't mind tbh, I thought your joke was "very nice" (Borat voice)