2020 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, Nov 27 - 29

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Re: 2020 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, Nov 27 - 29

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There is a news clip here of what looks to be about .5ltr petrol 'going up', and it is probably straight pump grade not the witches brew used in F1.
I really can not see that as a full tank going up.

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Jolle wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:23
Oh anybody else thought the reason Grosjean crashed was a classic Grosjean move?
What you mean? he got driver of the day on Sky.

I think it should be the med car
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Big Tea wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:27
There is a news clip here of what looks to be about .5ltr petrol 'going up', and it is probably straight pump grade not the witches brew used in F1.
I really can not see that as a full tank going up.

The fuel tank is filled with a dense open-cell foam that slows the flow of fuel out go any large rupture. They weren't dealing with an instantaneous 100kg conflagration but they did have a fuel tank rupture. Note how long the fire burned. It took nearly 20 seconds for the driver to get out and the fire burned a good while after. A litre or two would be burned out in a few seconds.
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trinidefender wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 21:59
Just_a_fan wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 21:50
Looking at this photo

https://cdn.the-race.com/wp-content/upl ... 4x683.jpg

It appears that the monocoque is split or cut roughly in line with the halo's front mounting point. If so,Gorsjean was even luckier than it originally seemed. He'd not have gotten out of the tub with broken legs.
You're seeing the back of the tub there not the front
Look at the right hand side of the photo where the tub narrows in front of the cockpit and the halo's front leg. There's a hole and what looks like a split. It would have been above the driver's knees.
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Big Tea wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:28
Jolle wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:23
Oh anybody else thought the reason Grosjean crashed was a classic Grosjean move?
What you mean? he got driver of the day on Sky.

I think it should be the med car
not the reason why he got driver of the day.... the medial car driver should get that award indeed, I mean, Grosjean going from left to right without looking at the start.

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smellybeard wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 21:57
Sieper wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 21:22
Could very well have been the case, there was one just behind the tub.
Just_a_fan wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 21:17
I wonder if the car was cut in half by one of the stanchions. Hitting it in just the right place caused the rrar of the tub to shear off.
Look at the direction the tub is pointing and think of the direction it was traveling in. It hit and the front embedded flinging the back around 180º. It broke because of the bending loads but it might have broken where it did - rather than at the engine mounts - because of the post.
Yes, that seems a reasonable scenario.
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I am glad GrosJean was able to walk away from the fireball crash. Now , it is evident that the French driver wont be available for the next race weekend in Sakhir which is in five days. Who will replace him? The Haas team lists Pietro Fittipaldi (his grand father is Emerson Fittipaldi) and Louis Deletraz as its test and SIM drivers. Those seem unlikely options. Perhaps Nico Hulkenberg will be called upon?

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fritticaldi wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:41
I am glad GrosJean was able to walk away from the fireball crash. Now , it is evident that the French driver wont be available for the next race weekend in Sakhir which is in five days. Who will replace him? The Haas team lists Pietro Fittipaldi (his grand father is Emerson Fittipaldi) and Louis Deletraz as its test and SIM drivers. Those seem unlikely options. Perhaps Nico Hulkenberg will be called upon?
Little Mickey (Schumacher jnr. We always called Big Michael "Mick" because of the potential for an appropriate rhyme).

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Rare three wheel pit stop :D
And yes that's legal before you ask..

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The driver's salary cap question should be well put to rest after this.
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smellybeard wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:47
fritticaldi wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:41
I am glad GrosJean was able to walk away from the fireball crash. Now , it is evident that the French driver wont be available for the next race weekend in Sakhir which is in five days. Who will replace him? The Haas team lists Pietro Fittipaldi (his grand father is Emerson Fittipaldi) and Louis Deletraz as its test and SIM drivers. Those seem unlikely options. Perhaps Nico Hulkenberg will be called upon?
Little Mickey (Schumacher jnr. We always called Big Michael "Mick" because of the potential for an appropriate rhyme).
Mick Schumacher will be involved in the F2 final race also at Sakhir where he has a 14 point lead in the Championship standings. So that makes him unavailable as well.

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I think Haas posted that Grosjean will be fit to race the remaining races, if he is up to it himself

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Jolle wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:34
Big Tea wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:28
Jolle wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:23
Oh anybody else thought the reason Grosjean crashed was a classic Grosjean move?
What you mean? he got driver of the day on Sky.

I think it should be the med car
not the reason why he got driver of the day.... the medial car driver should get that award indeed, I mean, Grosjean going from left to right without looking at the start.
Yeah he has been doing this his whole career

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Jolle wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:34
Big Tea wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:28
Jolle wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 23:23
Oh anybody else thought the reason Grosjean crashed was a classic Grosjean move?
What you mean? he got driver of the day on Sky.

I think it should be the med car
not the reason why he got driver of the day.... the medial car driver should get that award indeed, I mean, Grosjean going from left to right without looking at the start.
Yeah he has been doing this his whole career

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Just_a_fan wrote:
29 Nov 2020, 21:50
Looking at this photo

https://cdn.the-race.com/wp-content/upl ... 4x683.jpg

It appears that the monocoque is split or cut roughly in line with the halo's front mounting point. If so,Gorsjean was even luckier than it originally seemed. He'd not have gotten out of the tub with broken legs.
I can't help looking at the picture thinking a slightly different angle and his exit may have been blocked by the barrier.

The TV cam looks like it got caught and was the problem here. I would have thought they would have been weaker than that? If it broke off the monocoque may likely have sat back down on the other side of the barrier making the whole escape and exit route much easier.
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