Not possible to create engine on competitive level for 1 year, 2 are needed at least according to some history data. I'll be very satisfied if they come on 30HP behind Merc in 2021, everything above will be gorgeous.mvfad wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 15:04I'm afraid about this supposed new engine. Ferrari has not managed to create a good engine during the last few years without using the gray area (aka cheat), will they be able to produce a good engine within the rules in less than 1 year, even more with all this covid issue?
The internal name "Superfast" is not intended as "more powerful than others", but it indicates a faster combustion technology with respect to previous Ferrari F1 engines (which they hope will give better performance but could also not work at all).mika vs michael wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 16:23Ferrari should keep a low profile...all those comments about a superfast engine etc...sounds like lesson not learned...
Its not Ferrari who spread the rumors. Ferrari develops the engine along with mahle, who felt like they deserved the credit (which they would have gotten anyway in 2021). Hence why only the combustion process details have leaks. Rest all is just speculationmika vs michael wrote: ↑01 Dec 2020, 16:23Ferrari should keep a low profile...all those comments about a superfast engine etc...sounds like lesson not learned...
We should expect a sort of “Superfast” engine, which could be useful to study the future of Formula 1.
The new engine will not be a revolutionary version of the actual one but it will count on new solutions that were originally planned for the 2022 season. The turbo will be smaller indeed, to help the MGU-H improve its performances by recovering some extra electrical energy but there’s even more. Ferrari indeed, plans to add an innovative intercooler too.
Basically the ignition is faster because of new plugs, new intake and exhaust ports, and new materials.The “Superfast” – that’s how the new engine is called internally – will adopt a combustion chamber which will be able to provide a very fast TDC. This visionary view comes extremely close to the diesel technology but without using the spark plugs.
As for the exhaust pipes, Ferrari will build an engine that will use future technology to come back to a “vintage” philosophy. The “Superfast” engine will indeed come back to the tumble technology instead of the actual swirl one.
The Prancing Horse aims to fill the gap with Mercedes by adding more kinetic energy, and wants to do it designing a new plug which should be able not only accelerating the flux but redirecting it by adding some pressure. This solution might help the engine to turn on in a quicker way but delimitating the area in which the flame could expand itself, eliminating like that some dangerous detonations.
Yes that is correct. So far, Ferrari and Honda are bringing "brand new engines" for 2021, Mercedes with improvements to its current design and Renault have stayed relatively quiet but suggested their focus has switched entirely towards its new engine which will be ready for the 2022 season.
Thank youGhostF1 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 01:21Yes that is correct. So far, Ferrari and Honda are bringing "brand new engines" for 2021, Mercedes with improvements to its current design and Renault have stayed relatively quiet but suggested their focus has switched entirely towards its new engine which will be ready for the 2022 season.
And from spy photos, its looking as though they are going towards the Honda/Mercedes split turbo layout as well, moving away from Ferrari's layout.
Hope Ferrari goes split turbo in 2022GhostF1 wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 01:21Yes that is correct. So far, Ferrari and Honda are bringing "brand new engines" for 2021, Mercedes with improvements to its current design and Renault have stayed relatively quiet but suggested their focus has switched entirely towards its new engine which will be ready for the 2022 season.
And from spy photos, its looking as though they are going towards the Honda/Mercedes split turbo layout as well, moving away from Ferrari's layout.
That is not really the problem. I would say is better for overall intercooler packaging in front Vee and tight coke bottle in rear. Also intercooler ducting could be shorter and little less headache for packaging. Also ducting lag response in is more easier to map. I would even say u use less energy from mugh compressor spool. Every 0.1% counts. Plus u could put water intercooler very low to reduce cofg.FDD wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 10:17Can anyone explain what are the cons and pros of split turbo config comparing to lets say traditional approach?
PS I can find 2 pros, in sense that compressor is far from turbine that means heat from it is not transferred on compressed air and tighter-more compact packaging of the PU, but not sure for the second one.