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Drivers: Fernando Alonso (7), Nelson Piquet Jr. (8)
Team: Bob Bell (TD), Pat Symonds (Director of engineering), Rob White (Deputy managing director - engine), Tim Densham (CD), Dirk De Beer (HA)
Well, I was once again commenting on that notion that such a huge nosecone was chosen to house more ballast. 30kg of tungsten is a brick of 15x10x10 cm in dimensions (actually a bit less than that).Moanlower wrote:How much ballast did you have in mind? Ballast is mostly spread and not all stuffed in 1 area. You could easily put 30 or 40kg in the nose if needed even though I THINK less will do on a well balanced basic design.
timbo wrote:Unless they made ballast of goose feather, mechanic wouldn't be able to lift a nosecone of that volume fully packedMoanlower wrote:I don't understand. Why is that a good illustration? Do you think a mechanic can't lift a nose fitted with ballast?
So, what exactly is your point ?? It's already been stated that the nose is more than big enough to fit the necessary ballast. Why does it always has to be one thing or anothertimbo wrote:Well, I was once again commenting on that notion that such a huge nosecone was chosen to house more ballast. 30kg of tungsten is a brick of 15x10x10 cm in dimensions (actually a bit less than that).Moanlower wrote:How much ballast did you have in mind? Ballast is mostly spread and not all stuffed in 1 area. You could easily put 30 or 40kg in the nose if needed even though I THINK less will do on a well balanced basic design.
The big nose provides enough downforce AND gives room to easily shift ballast. It won't be that much. The math has already been done before. 'Xpensive' said the picture was a good illustration that the nosecone is not where to put ballast on an F1 car. My question was why, because of the weight? So even IF they would put 30 or 40kg in there it would still be possible to carry it. CapicheMetar wrote:And even as the "lightest Renault ever", with the 110kg pairing of Alonso and the KERS system, how likely are they to have over 40kg to play with?
Joke, tongue-in-cheek...kilcoo316 wrote:Why do you say that?axle wrote:Yeah, refinements, like sticking it in the bin and starting again...
Do you know what they are trying to do with it?
As a side note isn't there an EU regulation about requiring more than one employee to carry a load if it is above 25kg?Moanlower wrote:It won't be that much. The math has already been done before. 'Xpensive' said the picture was a good illustration that the nosecone is not where to put ballast on an F1 car. My question was why, because of the weight? So even IF they would put 30 or 40kg in there it would still be possible to carry it. CapicheMetar wrote:And even as the "lightest Renault ever", with the 110kg pairing of Alonso and the KERS system, how likely are they to have over 40kg to play with?
You are correct for a man 25kg's close to his pelvis or 20Kg's lower down.myurr wrote:
As a side note isn't there an EU regulation about requiring more than one employee to carry a load if it is above 25kg?
Could be making that up though, just a distant memory from a job I had over 10 years ago.
Indeed for testing pit proceedure, why have ANY ballast in it. You're learning a process not doing an endurance testxpensive wrote:If that rather precious nose-piece was any more than 10 kg, I am certain you would see at least two mechanics holding it while standing-by. Try hold full suit-case in front of you for size.
Dang, only minor - we live in hopemarinopc wrote:Spanish TV "La Sexta" said that R29 has minor aerodinamic changes for the current test in Jerez. Has anyone noticed this changes?
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Looks like they read F1technical forumsimightbewrong wrote:Renault have tried to hide some of the ugliness in its new nose by painting the underside black...
