Red Bull RB16B

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SmOgER wrote:
13 Mar 2021, 22:47
https://i.imgur.com/AiGYF9D.png
I cannot believe this is the only picture we get from that mishap. Did no photographer around the track capture the car from a better angle with higher quality?

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Mandrake wrote:
14 Mar 2021, 12:38
SmOgER wrote:
13 Mar 2021, 22:47
https://i.imgur.com/AiGYF9D.png
I cannot believe this is the only picture we get from that mishap. Did no photographer around the track capture the car from a better angle with higher quality?
Trust me, Red Bull will be hoping that there was really No one around the track who captured high quality pictures :D

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Mandrake wrote:
14 Mar 2021, 12:38
SmOgER wrote:
13 Mar 2021, 22:47
https://i.imgur.com/AiGYF9D.png
I cannot believe this is the only picture we get from that mishap. Did no photographer around the track capture the car from a better angle with higher quality?
My screenshot:
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But I'm not sure what you are expecting to see? :?: There is a radiator at the top of the engine as always, and otherwise all we can see is another layer of heatshields... Not much to see really.

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Nothing in particular, I'm not a very technical person, just interested in how things look. In this case what it looks like underneath which is usually a rare sight :)

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I have to say, that redbull rear end is too good. They have definitely beaten mercedes in that department this year
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Do you think RB would be running this medium DF rear wing if the Honda PU was level with Mercedes in terms of power output?

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This is the wing that works best for them on this track.
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Could it be the regulation changes have effected Mercedes low rake concept more than Red Bull's high rake concept? Like it's been said a million times it's only testing. But the Merc looks a proper handful at times this year.
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Their cape has a really big entrance!
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Its funny that Newey packaged the exhaust so tightly, they had no room for the exhaust mic and they just chugged it next to the gearbox :lol:

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lio007
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Anybody else noticed the very wide part of the floor?

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But this seems defined by regulations, I obviously never realised it is that wide:
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lio007 wrote:
16 Mar 2021, 10:44
Anybody else noticed the very wide part of the floor?

https://imgur.com/iJvCiUy.jpg

But this seems defined by regulations, I obviously never realised it is that wide:
https://imgur.com/XgiSObH.jpg

https://imgur.com/JIns73Q.jpg
Yes, the rules allow up to 250mm either side of the centre line to be on the reference plane, everything outside that to be on the step plane. Obviously running the floor as close to the ground as you can improves ground effect (within limits) so the teams make maximum use of this dimension.

It was the vertical transition between these two surfaces, and how badly it was defined, that created the loophole that allowed the double diffuser to be incorporated in 2009.
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Nice article to read by Edd Straw. :wink: "How 2021 F1 cars really handle – Edd Straw’s trackside verdict.":

https://the-race.com/formula-1/how-2021 ... e-verdict/

The most impressive car is the Red Bull. That isn’t a surprise, but just how good it looks in the hands of Max Verstappen is startling.

He is able to turn in with absolute commitment and carry the speed into the apex, but most breathtakingly he can get on the power decisively earlier than anyone – seemingly without a hint of wheelspin.

Last year’s Red Bull was tricky to master and Verstappen did so brilliantly. But as Lewis Hamilton said earlier in the day, Red Bull is a different beast this year and Verstappen looks completely at one with it. Regardless of the stopwatch, the poise of the Red Bull RB16B on track screamed class of the field.

But there is a caveat in the form of Mercedes. In Hamilton’s hands, the Mercedes is relatively subdued and it’s some time before he appears remotely interested in attacking on turn in.

Then as he picks up the pace, the car’s limitations did appear to show. It’s clear Hamilton isn’t turning in as decisively as Verstappen, but how much of that is the fact he doesn’t need to given this is testing and how much is down to the rear-end instability is difficult to be sure of.

Most likely, it’s a little of both. Hamilton never commits to the corner like Verstappen, but he is pushing and the contrast on traction is also clear. While the Red Bull is planted, the Mercedes squirms in the corner exit as Hamilton feeds in.

Remember, one of the areas where the new aerodynamic regulations can hurt is in terms of traction and that supports the suggestion that the Mercedes rear end is the issue. This was a strength of the car last year but it could be hurting in all phases of the corner in 2021.

This is definitely not the Mercedes W12 either at its lightest or driven at its hardest, so it’s not a like-for-like comparison with the Red Bull. But it is lacking compared to the Red Bull.

The question is, how much and will it be resolved by the time qualifying gets under way for the first race of the season in Bahrain when we get the first completely representative lap times?
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