2021 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix - Imola, Apr 16 - 18

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GalacticHitchHiker wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 18:36
I do wonder why they chose to change the definition of an event for one article rather than just saying fp1 and fp2 didn't count towards gearbox usage. That would have been much more clear.
If they did that, lawyers will all be out of jobs.

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dans79 wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 17:20
atanatizante wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 17:16
Regarding race pace, Leclerc was the fastest on the S tyre, although I suspect he had not so much fuel as Merc cars and was running a higher PU mode.
most likely pushing really really hard as well.
I thought they run very level downforce for this track. RBR f.e. (That I personally saw) has much more wing. You can be fast that way but you are on a knife edge as demonstrated by the ever optimistically driving Leclerc.

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GalacticHitchHiker wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 18:36
dans79 wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 18:13
no wonder the rules constantly need clarified, they are clear as mud. stuff changes from article to article.
I do wonder why they chose to change the definition of an event for one article rather than just saying fp1 and fp2 didn't count towards gearbox usage. That would have been much more clear.
Because it’s not just the gearbox. Teams are allowed cars that would be illegal to race, like aero racks fitted or experimental tires.

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Jolle wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 19:13
GalacticHitchHiker wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 18:36
dans79 wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 18:13
no wonder the rules constantly need clarified, they are clear as mud. stuff changes from article to article.
I do wonder why they chose to change the definition of an event for one article rather than just saying fp1 and fp2 didn't count towards gearbox usage. That would have been much more clear.
Because it’s not just the gearbox. Teams are allowed cars that would be illegal to race, like aero racks fitted or experimental tires.
I think he means because there are no special "allowances" for other key components.
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RZS10 wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 16:20
DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 16:07

:D
https://i.imgur.com/OBupfHW.png
Likely route?
Yes, that's the route. Unfortunately, with the motorhomes and the teams trucks there's no space to go through from the main entrance.

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A lot of gremlins for Red Bull, whatever happened to Perez in Bahrain, Max diff issue (however minor it was) and again today, that's not how you win championships.

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Sevach wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 20:09
A lot of gremlins for Red Bull, whatever happened to Perez in Bahrain, Max diff issue (however minor it was) and again today, that's not how you win championships.
Broken driveshaft is a bit of a worry TBH. Its not like they can just conjure up a bit thicker version on the spot.

They will keep failing under the same circumstance, so it could be a big worry Sat/Sun.

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atanatizante wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 17:16
Regarding race pace, Leclerc was the fastest on the S tyre, although I suspect he had not so much fuel as Merc cars and was running a higher PU mode. But it worth mentioning that Perez was just 1 tenth behind Ham times in the first couple of laps when they did their simulation work ...
Everyone is on same fuel level for a race simulation. Otherwise there would be not much sense in doing them. It’s not being done for fun or glory runs. That’s valuable data.

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LM10 wrote:
atanatizante wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 17:16
Regarding race pace, Leclerc was the fastest on the S tyre, although I suspect he had not so much fuel as Merc cars and was running a higher PU mode. But it worth mentioning that Perez was just 1 tenth behind Ham times in the first couple of laps when they did their simulation work ...
Everyone is on same fuel level for a race simulation. Otherwise there would be not much sense in doing them. It’s not being done for fun or glory runs. That’s valuable data.
That’s not necessarily true... The teams don’t all use the same amount of fuel for their long runs (nor for the short runs) during practice... A team could run 60kg while another may run 80kg for those long runs... With sessions now been only one hour, you could expect even more variation


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LM10 wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 20:54
atanatizante wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 17:16
Regarding race pace, Leclerc was the fastest on the S tyre, although I suspect he had not so much fuel as Merc cars and was running a higher PU mode. But it worth mentioning that Perez was just 1 tenth behind Ham times in the first couple of laps when they did their simulation work ...
Everyone is on same fuel level for a race simulation. Otherwise there would be not much sense in doing them. It’s not being done for fun or glory runs. That’s valuable data.
Yes and no, as the teams like to play games. No ones doing a full race stint length run (~18 to 24 laps). Thus they can play with fuel load and engine settings to simulate various things.
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Wouter wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 10:36
zibby43 wrote:
15 Apr 2021, 17:44
Marko had convinced some people that Red Bull had lost 59 seconds a lap compared to their actual pace due to the tiniest of car issues in Bahrain.
Marko says a lot, but I don't think he said that, 59 seconds a lap. :lol:
I mean he said 0.3 sec a lap.
I know, I was just being sarcastic and having a little fun since I found some of his estimations grossly exaggerated. :D

Marko is a character, and F1 needs characters.

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Good day for the Brakley boys but let’s not get ahead of ourselves here, yes, progress is there, but progress is also on the other side of the garage with the Bulls.

However, as i have silently said, on many other posts, i have seen this Mercedes team pushed since 2017 in various parts of the seasons since then. I have yet to see any single contestant win in the current configuration of the regulations, especially in the current driver line-up.

To put it in another perspective, maybe with the exception of one season, Lewis Hamilton has fought for a title every year he has raced. Every. Single. Season. Now add a top 2 car, which is already a race winner, the best engineering team, factually proven by winning 7 in a row, a solid number two, which can win races and put it on pole.

Not only would you need the season of your lifetime to beat them, you need to be 100% every second, minute, hour. I haven’t seen anyone compete at this level consistently over a single season with the exception of Mercedes themselves.

RedBull might win it still, but in order to achieve such a thing, they need far more, than just the faster car on some weekends, if* it works. And yet another shaky number 2. Just my 2 cents.

And a short PS, what on earth has Honda done with that engine, absolutely awesome engineering, so sad to see them leave man..

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zibby43 wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 21:45
Wouter wrote:
16 Apr 2021, 10:36
zibby43 wrote:
15 Apr 2021, 17:44
Marko had convinced some people that Red Bull had lost 59 seconds a lap compared to their actual pace due to the tiniest of car issues in Bahrain.
Marko says a lot, but I don't think he said that, 59 seconds a lap. :lol:
I mean he said 0.3 sec a lap.
I know, I was just being sarcastic and having a little fun since I found some of his estimations grossly exaggerated. :D
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Surprising pace by both Williams on Friday. Even more surprising is Latifi ahead of the highly touted Russell.

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I suspect the television director is not a race fan; it seems cars must (usually) totally fill the screen. By backing off we could get a better view of what the car is actually doing in corners. Showing the track and other cars is not a bad thing.... By focusing on a close up of the car the sense of speed is lost; I remember my first GP and the amazement I felt when I saw how hast the cars were actually going around corners. I was racing FF at the time and had quite a bit of seat time, but seeing the F1 cars in real life was amazing.

Also, why don't the teams put the driver's name on the roll structure so we can instantly know who we are watching, instead of having to wait for a graphic to identify the driver? Seems pretty basic to me and if I were in charge of F1 it would be a requirement; yeah, I know I'm supposed to be able to identify helmets, but......

Some nits, but still..... Having said this, I subscribed to the F1 video service this year and am really happy with the product, especially the in-car cameras and the ability to watch the race in the afternoon, instead of at 6:00 am here in the western U.S. The hard part is going to be to not to see who won before watching; will enjoy being able to have a couple of beers during the race.