Formula E - Folrmula1 comparison, Monaco 2021 edition

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What will the pole time be for the 2021 Monaco E-prix?

Slower than 1:40. Do those things really have wings?
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13%
1:35-1:39. Not anything like any modern F1.
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13%
1:30-1:34. 1970s performance accounting for the extra twisty bits.
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50%
1:25-1:29. 1970s performance.
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6%
1:20-1:24. 1980s performance.
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13%
1:15-1:19. 1990s performance.
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1:10-1:14. Yeah, right!
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6%
 
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Andres125sx wrote:
10 May 2021, 19:02
Apart from qualifying lap, what was racing pace comparison?

I think that would be the fair comparison. Tire difference is huge, comparing hot laps when one of them use soft tires wich are good just for few laps when the other car is using tires wich must last the whole GP is apples to oranges, but if we compare race pace, even if tires are still completely different, at least both are using the tires to last a more similar mileage so tire influence in the difference is minimized
Formula E use single compound, all-weather tyres. For a single event each driver only gets 3 fronts and 3 rears for the whole weekend, double-race weekends they get 4 of each, so they have to rotate the tyres through practice/quali/pre-race. Formula E don't have a fuel burn effect, so are you comparing to F1 early race or late race pace? Quali is easiest to see absolute speed.
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That´s the point, tires are too different so at least comparing race laps vs race laps makes up for some of that difference.

But yes it´s still all weather tires vs slicks, and much harder compounds on FE even if we compare with the hardest compound of F1

No idea if they´re reusing tires or not :?:

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jjn9128 wrote:
10 May 2021, 19:46
Formula E don't have a fuel burn effect, so are you comparing to F1 early race or late race pace? Quali is easiest to see absolute speed.
Yes but that goes in favour of F1 as they get a weight advantage while FE do it with same weight as in the race. Maybe the more fair comparison would be average lap (race time / total laps) of the winner of each category

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I couldn´t stop myself comparing average lap times in the race but can´t find the number of laps FE completed :x

F1:(2019, last F1 race in Monaco): 1:43:28.437, 78 laps, average of 1:19.595
FE: 47:20.697, :?: laps, average of :?:

If someone knows please post it

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26 laps. So 1:49.26? There was a SC where they lapped about 2:30 though.

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