2021 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 04 - 06

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siskue2005 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 19:35
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05 Jun 2021, 19:27
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05 Jun 2021, 17:15


Yeah sure, man. And conveniently it was Hamilton who got the benefit first and the water boy delivering the water first.

I'm not moaning either. I admire teams doing these kinds of litte tricks to get the last drop of performance out. This is what F1 should be all about. Ferrari used to do it in the past and I think Red Bull were trying it a few times also.

The other teams were not brave enough. Mercedes ahead with their game again. Leclerc... Maybe a great strategy by the team to get him capitalize on the Mercs slip stream. But knowing Ferrari it could have also been blind luck. Anyways, great lap from Leclerc. Hope he can spice things up at the front tomorrow.

Leclerc, Hamilton, Verstappen. It's time!
It’s true. Merc alternate who gets the tow. It’s been known for a few years now. And it was confirmed by the team today.

Easy way to verify is to see who goes out first in Q3 at Ricard.
It's not that they alternate who goes out first, but they alternate "who gets the choice to". Come France bottas can decide if he wants to go first or second. It's been the same since 2012, 2013.

At Monaco bottas decided to go first, as its not good to be the last person their due to yellow and red flags.
Correct.

Bottas today:

“We alternate and this weekend was Lewis’ choice to decide who goes first out the garage so obviously in the first run on Q3 he had my tow and in the second run I tried to get tow from Charles but there was the red flag which stopped my flying lap.”

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any chance we'll get to see a two-stop race tomorrow? Mercedes, Alpha Tauri, Alfa Romeo and Williams als saved two sets of hards, so at least they seem to see it as an option.

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What tires are the top 3 starting on?

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zibby43 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 19:55
What tires are the top 3 starting on?
Soft. HAM, VER with one extra hot lap on them

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F1NAC wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 19:56
zibby43 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 19:55
What tires are the top 3 starting on?
Soft. HAM, VER with one extra hot lap on them
it's actually only another warm-up lap in Hamilton's case, only Verstappen did two hot laps

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Best quali we could have hoped for. Leclerc slower than both Hamilton and Verstappen on race pace, Hamilton and Max almost even, slightly in Max's favour. Should be a good race if we don't just end up with 5 safety cars.
Felipe Baby!

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F1NAC wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 19:56
zibby43 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 19:55
What tires are the top 3 starting on?
Soft. HAM, VER with one extra hot lap on them
Thank you kindly.

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Was the tow Leclerc got really that powerful? His top speed is only 6th fastest overall and 3 km/h lower than Hamilton's top speed of the session. His S3 time was 1.5 tenths slower than Hamilton's.

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https://www.formulapassion.it/manifesto ... 69381.html

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Powerful, but not mega. It was more the better exit from T16 than the tow

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Hamilton’s untowed S3 in Q2 was quicker than his towed S3 in Q3 interestingly enough.

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People need to stop whining about the tow Bottas gave to Hamilton. Hamilton was 4 seconds behind Valtteri which means he didn't benefit more that 1-2 tenths in s3. Bottas was slower in first two sectors by a whooping 7-8 tenths (even though he drove in clean air). Also, Verstappen was not setting two purple sectors (as some have suggested) before the red flag. He was in the middle of the first secotr. Some people here need to stop making up "facts" with the sole purpose of glorifying Max.

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Has Pirelli posted the tyres each team has for the race?

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tpe wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 21:44
Has Pirelli posted the tyres each team has for the race?
no, but as I posted above, Mercedes. AT, AR and Williams have 2 sets of Hard, everyone else 1.

Additionally, all teams but Haas have one set of Mediums. No new Softs left for anyone who made it into Q3

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Tvetovnato wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 21:06
Hamilton’s untowed S3 in Q2 was quicker than his towed S3 in Q3 interestingly enough.
He didn't get a great exit in T16 on this Q3 lap, likely lost a tenth or potentially 2 tenths there. Would have been very close with Leclerc for pole.
Felipe Baby!

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max_speed wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 18:46
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05 Jun 2021, 15:52
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05 Jun 2021, 15:48
if i were bottas , will shame toto in public. mercedes has made a joke of him.without his tow lewis will be where bottas is. i hope ves will overtake him . i will not mind if they both crash as long as they both retire from race.
How?

If you’re the only team utilising a 2-lap warmup, how do you position the lead car to get a tow?
here is an explaination by our own bluffmaster Sir Toto : http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/7763 ... by_Bottas/

i hope bottas comes out and calls his bluff. in monaco he blamed bottas for wheel gun failure. he was off by 2-3 cm only. amazing man he is :)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
"this weekend this was Lewis' call. And he decided to go second. Nothing surprising."
and in Hungary and Monaco it's valtteri's turn to decide to go second

"And at the end, we had so many more answers to our questions and then a car that was good."
Notice how he said "a car" and not "cars"

"We debated it and we have a lower downforce configuration and the higher one. Valtteri opted for the higher downforce configuration and Lewis for the lower but there's not a lot in it."
Bearley a second or so :lol: