2021 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 04 - 06

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Tizz wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 23:23
NathanOlder wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 23:03
Unf wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 22:45


He made two purple sectors before Tsunoda crashed. What else do you expect from Verstappen? Especially when it happened to him two times in a row.
When Tsunoda crashed, Max was at Turn 2. So no, just no. Max's first run in Q3 was over 2 tenths slower than Leclercs best in Q3.
The live timing on formula1 showed very clearly purple but only in the first sector.
Yeah but if you watched live timing when it was live, its easy to notice Max only had 1 run in Q3 and his S1 time was a 35.6 and Leclerc did a 35.4.
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i was just joking ... technically Horner wasn't wrong though, maybe he was thinking about the overall sectors and that it would have looked good had Max been able to replicate the times ... it's not his fault that people then take what he said and repeat it without checking if it was that particular run.

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Manoah2u wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 00:04
bottas now definately heading towards getting a british replacement.
I dont think so. Given the circumstances of mecedes grasping around and gambling on setup. I would not blame Bottas for a P10 worse given that he could have improved had it not been for the Yuki Spinnoda crash.
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F1NAC wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 22:51
Unf wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 22:45
Diesel wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 22:41
You can see the frustration showing in Verstappen's interview after qualifying.
He made two purple sectors before Tsunoda crashed. What else do you expect from Verstappen? Especially when it happened to him two times in a row.
Tsunoda crashed in S1.... how he could have 2 purple sectors??

Stop with this non sense. Leclerc was even 2 tenths up in his last attempt in S1.

Even combined best sectors put Verstappen behind Leclerc.

He needed to be fastest in his first run. And he didn't do that...
I think the confusion about Verstappen going purple in sector 1&2 is from Horner giving Verstappen that message over radio after Verstappen showed his frustration about the red flag. When I heard it I knew it was wrong. I believe it went first: Red Bull-Red Bull-Merc-Merc behind the Ferrari's. I figured it was Horner trying to keep his driver's spirits up

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Without being rude I just think Horner talks a lot of garbage, he said to channel 4 that Max had just set 2 fastest sectors, when Max hadn't even completed sector 1 before the red flag.
It says the same in this article,
https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verst ... ustration/

Red Bull team principal Christian Horner understood Verstappen’s frustration, having seen his driver go purple in Sector 1 and Sector 2 on his final attempt at pole.
“It was frustrating but it’s the same for everybody, they didn’t get that second lap in,” he said.

“But at least at this circuit you can overtake. Max’s frustration…I think he knew having gone purple in Sector 1, Sector 2 that there was a better lap in there. It looked like he would pick up a tow from [Fernando] Alonso there at the end of the lap as well.

“But we will never know now.”

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How in the world Ferrari end up so fast in Baku is the real question for me! Just doesnt make any sense even as Ferrari fan.

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Such BS from someone who surely knows better?! what planet is he from?!
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"I think he knew having gone purple in Sector 1, Sector 2 that there was a better lap in there."

Never said "on the second lap" ... just that Max had purple there at some point and that he therefore knew he could have gone faster than on his first lap ... why are you getting mad about what amounts to nothing?

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RZS10 wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 01:41
Why are you getting mad about what amounts to nothing?
True .. unsure why all these threads always end up in some d*** measuring my-guy-is-goat/best ...
I'd reckon it's a sign of the times.
Pity not everyone could bring in the ultimate lap in the end, but now we have at least an interesting grid (without having to fabricate reversing grids etc) in a GP that almost always turns to some degree of Mayhem. As someone said, "Don't underestimate the possibility of a Nor win" .. I personally like that.

But the infant bieber-tistic atitudes on this forum, I could do without. Weirdly enough though, these same ppl have (at least to me) great technical insights and can explain very well .. it just baffles.
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Tsunoda felt he could fight for the front if he finished that lap.
He did a 1.41.654 in Q2,he felt top3 was possible in Q3.
The strategy was doing two flying lap with one set,he felt he could did a better laptime than Q2 before he crashed.
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/87620 ... bfe432d3b5
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Here is overtake is possible so no need to worry about the position. the long straight is 2.2km out of 6.2 km circuit. You can easily overtake here so position does not matter race pace is matter. thats why Ham is very happy. He will over take lec in lap 3 once DRC enabled.

The pole does not matter in this circuit.

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hasika wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 04:50
Tsunoda felt he could fight for the front if he finished that lap.
He did a 1.41.502 in Q2,he felt top3 was possible in Q3.
The strategy was doing two flying lap with one set,he felt he could did a better laptime than Q2 before he crashed.
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/87620 ... bfe432d3b5
how? he did 1'41.654 in the q2 according fia.

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Jakxy wrote:
06 Jun 2021, 01:04
How in the world Ferrari end up so fast in Baku is the real question for me! Just doesnt make any sense even as Ferrari fan.
I would love to hope that this result is realistic and repeatable, but I'm afraid it's a fluke or something :(
Anyway, even if Q3 pace is real, I think they will drop in the race. Remember how much faster Hamilton was in Imola

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Sevach wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 15:38

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Mercedes fixed it's pace by doing 2 warm up laps.
I wonder what it means for the race, surely not a powerful undercut(again), and maybe vulnerable lap 1.
Yeah, they`ll start on the soft tyres but you have to bear in mind that at the start of the race the car will be fully fueled up, thus helping with tyre warm-up ...

What will be truly interesting it`ll be had they `re gonna use the hard tyre in the race, bearing in mind they have issues with tyre warming up and the possible multiple SC/VSC phases ...

Having said that, could we take into conclusion that Merc is setting their car to be kinder on tyres in order to have longer stints, which give them the flexible strategy with 1 or 2 stops in the races? But this tactic bits them in qualy, especially when they have to use the softest tyre available (C5 and C4), that`s why they need that extra warm up lap ...
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