Max Verstappen has won the French Grand Prix thanks to a well thought out two stop strategy. Mercedes were left surprised, leaving both drivers wonder why they stuck to their one-stopper. Hamilton lost the lead on the penultimate lap to finish second, followed by Sergio Perez.
To be fair, RBR had brand new engines in this race, and are also able to run with less drag without giving anything away in twisty parts of the track due to better downforce than MB with these 2021 regs.
Yes he is really underrated, he grow up under his father influence. Driving in different conditions making him really adaptable to any car and responding well to it.
Dont know why is underrated i always found him a good driver very stable and i think good feedback to develop a car
I don’t know anything about leclerc’s pace. I have almost never seen him in a longer stint with comparable tires and car performance to his competitors. I do know he is very quick in qualy but also still slightly wild, accepting a tad more risk to get there. Imho.ringo wrote: ↑21 Jun 2021, 06:37Yes his weakness, even when he had vettel as teammate, was race pace. People need to remember that he is fairly inexperienced and hasnt really had the opportunity to learn from an experienced driver willing to share. He went from Sauber to Ferrari in no time and disnt learn much from Vettel who he beat. So i think he has more to learn from Sainz now ironically. He definitely is fast over a lap though.
I don't know if he's underrated so much as under the radar. Was treated a bit poorly by RBR as a casualty of their historical habit of prioritising driver A over driver B, IMO and has had to quietly go about his business in the background to an extent thereafter.maxxer wrote: ↑21 Jun 2021, 13:20Dont know why is underrated i always found him a good driver very stable and i think good feedback to develop a car
Like Alonso and Schumacher if this team would keep him long term he can help develop the car
Yes, the race was lost on strategy, not because of the car.TimW wrote: ↑21 Jun 2021, 12:00Also in English it makes perfect sense to have a margin in speed over your competitor. You can even have a speed advantage by a significant margin....
To be honest, Mercedes had the advantage on high fuel load, but on low fuel it may well have been reversed. Both RB drivers were complaining on balance in the beginning and said it improved a lot later on. We will never know because both RB's had a significant tire advantage towards the end.
Agreed. A rich time with three multiple world champions and a world champion batting for the old guard, and half a dozen young guns that make the future look bright. One of those young guns is looking very strongly set to join the title holders, and there are two or three other young guns that could also join the title holder group given the right car. Next year's big rule change could bring any of them in to contention if someone does a good job / bad job with the new cars.
We are going to move into either enlightenment or entitlement in the new cars.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑21 Jun 2021, 14:32Agreed. A rich time with three multiple world champions and a world champion batting for the old guard, and half a dozen young guns that make the future look bright. One of those young guns is looking very strongly set to join the title holders, and there are two or three other young guns that could also join the title holder group given the right car. Next year's big rule change could bring any of them in to contention if someone does a good job / bad job with the new cars.
Masi about Max: "The situation was looked at, as well as the place where he shot off the track.RZS10 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2021, 22:41It doesn't matter if he gained an advantage or lost out ... the race director's notes clearly stated that anyone not making the corner would have to go through the bollards, he did not, and it wasn't even that he got pushed out whilst fighting for position, he just did not make the corner - so he should have made that little detour which surely would have cost him further positions (many, probably), he did not do so and only lost one place which kept him in contention for the win.
He did not even bother with pretending to go for the bollards in order to claim that he wouldn't have made it at that angle and speed, just got back on track the fastest way possible.
So Masi's own notes aren't even worth as much as the paper they're (not) printed on ... would the penalty of going through the bollards fit the crime of making a mistake? Probably not, but of course he got away with it.
Obviously Bottas should have gone the long way when he missed corner 4 which would have cost him the position to Checo, but at least Masi was consistent in ignoring his very own rules there.
Agreed. Close car performance would be excellent.Zynerji wrote: ↑21 Jun 2021, 14:46We are going to move into either enlightenment or entitlement in the new cars.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑21 Jun 2021, 14:32Agreed. A rich time with three multiple world champions and a world champion batting for the old guard, and half a dozen young guns that make the future look bright. One of those young guns is looking very strongly set to join the title holders, and there are two or three other young guns that could also join the title holder group given the right car. Next year's big rule change could bring any of them in to contention if someone does a good job / bad job with the new cars.
I hope it isn't entitlement, like it is now. I hope Q3 in 2022 is covered by .2s, 1-10th...
