2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 - 18

[f1316]

No one would know from any of the reaction that Leclerc put the Ferrari, which is down on power, on a track with a lot of on throttle, onto the 2nd row. Cracking lap to be ahead of a Red Bull.

[Zynerji]

No one would know from any of the reaction that Leclerc put the Ferrari, which is down on power, on a track with a lot of on throttle, onto the 2nd row. Cracking lap to be ahead of a Red Bull.

Do we know it's down on power?

That would make it the best chassis on the grid if a weak engine can get so close to Honda/Merc.

[i70q7m7ghw]

Pirelli can't even build a tyre that lasts a lap. Both Hamilton & Verstappen were complaining that the tyre was falling away at the end of the hot lap, and that's with a very pedestrian out lap. All of the changes for next year might be a waste of time if F1 can't resolve the tyre issues.

[Zynerji]

Conspiracy theory.

A driver gets a puncture at the start, changes to yellows, then wins when everyone else has tyre cliff issues.

[i70q7m7ghw]

Verstappen gave a glowing endorsement for the new format this weekend...

Today doesn't really mean anything.

[RZS10]

Well, so much for the "Red Bull has a dominant car" ramblings

HAM cracked on his final Q3 run and still Max couldnt beat the Merc today. Perrez only 5th.

Well luckily his clean run was better than Max's clean run. Max cracked on his first run in the same part of the lap.
Taking pole for Lewis means he didn't crack really.

They both cracked, clearly Hamilton had the dominant car that was more to his liking than Max.

Alternatively neither of them really cracked (i guess you all mean 'cracked under pressure'), Max didn't have the car where would have wanted it to be and still did well and Lewis went more aggressive on his second run and had a tiny moment on tyres that apparently were already losing peak grip after really fast sectors 1 and 2 as Diesel has pointed out a few post up.

If they're allowed to change the suspension, cooling, ballast etc it pretty much allows them a near full setup change so it's "parc ferme extra light" isn't it?

[Just_a_fan]

Pole is determined tomorrow sadly; winner of the sprint race.

Which makes pole a win result, not a pole result. Another reason why the new system is stupid.

[zibby43]

Merc being able to not run boat anchor rear wings anymore on circuits like this is pivotal.

Pretty impressive comeback considering they didn’t have much of a chance to dial in the upgrades,

Is it due to the soft tyre is the C3 compound - in the middle of the tyre range - or just the Silverstone's high-speed corners that allowed them not to do a second time for warming up the softs? with the little help of the upgrades, of course, ...

It’s a front-limited circuit, which definitely is an attribute that suits their philosophy. It’s always the rear temps that have been pesky for them.

[zibby43]

The gap was what, 0.075s with only 1FP session to prepare the car. This session doesn't really say much about how the season will play out at all.

I would’ve been curious to see what the gap was if Hamilton cleanly finished his second Q3 lap.

Juzh was saying 4-5 tenths. Is that estimate accurate?

[Just_a_fan]

Interesting question that I haven't seen claried anywhere. Is this Hamilton's 101st pole, or does he only get that if he wins the sprint Race tomorrow?

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https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/89055/fo ... ation.html

Changes to qualifying

The fastest driver in qualifying will not get the official pole position to his name this weekend. That will go to the winner of the sprint race on Saturday.

That's not really pole then, is it? Historically, there's a big difference between pole (single lap pace)and race wins (multi-lap wins).

We could have pole winners that are rubbish over one lap. That's not pole.

[RZS10]

The gap was what, 0.075s with only 1FP session to prepare the car. This session doesn't really say much about how the season will play out at all.

I would’ve been curious to see what the gap was if Hamilton cleanly finished his second Q3 lap.

Juzh was saying 4-5 tenths. Is that estimate accurate?

He was up by 0.227 on his own time after the second sector.
In S1 he improved by 0.106s, that's 5 corners and the wellington straight.
In S2 he improved by 0.121s, that's 9 corners and the old start/finish straight.
There's only Stowe and the hangar straight between the end of S2 and his drift in vale, wonder what the mini sectors were for that bit.
But 4-5 tenths would mean an improvement of another 2-3 in just four corners and the hanger straight when he improved by roughly one tenth each in the other two, don't know how realistic that would be or if the tyres would have allowed it.

[Just_a_fan]

Going to put this out there now: I think Russell is the quickest driver in F1 over a single lap. He got the Williams in to Q3 and then beat "faster cars".

I think, given equal cars, Russell would beat Lewis and Max, hands down.

[langedweil]

Going to put this out there now: I think Russell is the quickest driver in F1 over a single lap. He got the Williams in to Q3 and then beat "faster cars".

I think, given equal cars, Russell would beat Lewis and Max, hands down.

Mnah .. in equal cars there'd be 4/5 guys equally good and only punished for the slightest mistake they'd make; just a lottery.

He got 7th because he got the max out of the car whereas the others didn't. No more complicated than that.

[zibby43]

Going to put this out there now: I think Russell is the quickest driver in F1 over a single lap. He got the Williams in to Q3 and then beat "faster cars".

I think, given equal cars, Russell would beat Lewis and Max, hands down.

Mnah .. in equal cars there'd be 4/5 guys equally good and only punished for the slightest mistake they'd make; just a lottery.

He got 7th because he got the max out of the car whereas the others didn't. No more complicated than that.

Where did Latifi finish in the same car?

You realize we’re talking about a Williams? It’s improved, but GR is on fire. If he was in a McLaren right now, people would be saying “Lando who?”

[zibby43]

The gap was what, 0.075s with only 1FP session to prepare the car. This session doesn't really say much about how the season will play out at all.

I would’ve been curious to see what the gap was if Hamilton cleanly finished his second Q3 lap.

Juzh was saying 4-5 tenths. Is that estimate accurate?

He was up by 0.227 on his own time after the second sector.
In S1 he improved by 0.106s, that's 5 corners and the wellington straight.
In S2 he improved by 0.121s, that's 9 corners and the old start/finish straight.
There's only Stowe and the hangar straight between the end of S2 and his drift in vale, wonder what the mini sectors were for that bit.
But 4-5 tenths would mean an improvement of another 2-3 in just four corners and the hanger straight when he improved by roughly one tenth each in the other two, don't know how realistic that would be or if the tyres would have allowed it.

Great stuff. Thanks for the detailed breakdown.