I was suprised about how hard it was to overtake here today.
Overtaking only took place where Horner said it was impossible to.
Hungary may be even worse.
If he was in front there wouldn't have been contact...LM10 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:15There is nothing wrong to turn in when you’re on the racing line and in front, which Max was.Shrieker wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:08Max drove onto Ham at Imola, Hamilton yielded. He did the same again in Catalunya, Hamilton yielded again. Max at this point probably thinks he can bully any driver ad infinitum.
It was only a matter of time until Hamilton said enough's enough. He put his nose in there, and told Max to turn in if you dare. Of course knowing Max, he thought Ham would yield again.
Wrong. And he paid dearly for it. He's not smart, and if he loses the title in the end, that'll be the only thing to blame.
LM10 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:15There is nothing wrong to turn in when you’re on the racing line and in front, which Max was.Shrieker wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:08Max drove onto Ham at Imola, Hamilton yielded. He did the same again in Catalunya, Hamilton yielded again. Max at this point probably thinks he can bully any driver ad infinitum.
It was only a matter of time until Hamilton said enough's enough. He put his nose in there, and told Max to turn in if you dare. Of course knowing Max, he thought Ham would yield again.
Wrong. And he paid dearly for it. He's not smart, and if he loses the title in the end, that'll be the only thing to blame.
He went off track in turn 1 in order to stay ahead. Should have given the place up there and then.
I get where you are coming from, but any driver can overtake on any part of the track if the opportunity presents itself.
But that's not in the rules. The rules permit overtaking anywhere on the circuit, there's nothing that says "don't overtake in fast corners".
To be honest, he done nothing what Lewis and many other drivers didnt do before. Thats why gravel traps would make sure noone would be doing this. A 2 meter wide strip of gravel would be probably enough.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:26He went off track in turn 1 in order to stay ahead. Should have given the place up there and then.
Isn’t the definition of being in front that your nose must be ahead?Just_a_fan wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:23If he was in front there wouldn't have been contact...LM10 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:15There is nothing wrong to turn in when you’re on the racing line and in front, which Max was.Shrieker wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:08Max drove onto Ham at Imola, Hamilton yielded. He did the same again in Catalunya, Hamilton yielded again. Max at this point probably thinks he can bully any driver ad infinitum.
It was only a matter of time until Hamilton said enough's enough. He put his nose in there, and told Max to turn in if you dare. Of course knowing Max, he thought Ham would yield again.
Wrong. And he paid dearly for it. He's not smart, and if he loses the title in the end, that'll be the only thing to blame.
I don't really get the comment about the celebrations. Are Verstappen/Horner honestly expecting Hamilton should be handing the trophy back and telling the fans "the show is over, go home"... I get they are upset, but I don't think that should be directed at the fans.
I’m sorry but Verstappen has been at it all year and Hamilton has yielded over and over again yet the very second Hamilton draws a line in the sand they both need banning?proteus wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:25Both drivers are becoming seriously dangerous. Maybe they both should get a race ban, to get their act together. How far will they go this year, and are they willing to kill one another for the title? It is the first time that Max actually has the chance to take the championship and he is no Vettel or Leclerc to yield to Hamilton, and it is first time after a long period that Lewis has to invest all of his talent and energy to fight against Max, and them both started to open an old bag of shady tricks fully willing to exploit them in real life....Slamming someone off the track with speeds over 200kmh is not something a seven time world champion should do, and ramming each other off the track and pushing into a wall is also a giant di*k move to be doing by a challenging driver over the season...
None of them is innocent this season, both of them are driving way too agressive towards each other. There is nothing wrong if they knock wheels where speeds are not high enough to risk somebodys life, but to do it at full speeds means both of them are missing few wheels in their heads, and someone should slam a fist on the table and explain them rules of engagement.
Like i said, race ban for both, for them to chill and think about how to drive in the future.
Agree. He left plenty of room and that can easily be confirmed by just watching the onboards.DChemTech wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:21He was given room. What more should he have done? Go off like Leclerc? There have been plenty of times when critique of his moves was in order, but in my view, not in this case. He wasnt making it easy on his rival, but he surely left room.Hammerfist wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:14It's sad that he apparently hasn't learned from this incident. He might not be so lucky next time. Hamilton's words in one of his post race interviews imply that he expects to be given room in such situations. This won't be the last time they crash unfortunately.GrizzleBoy wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 20:10
Fight every battle at 100% expecting that your aggressiveness will cause everyone around to yield and you're going to crash at some point.
Live by the sword, end up in the wall sometimes. Or at least thats how i think it goes.