It's also in large part also 'availability bias' and social media mechanics.El Scorchio wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 01:03There are (a small minority of) nasty ignorant people in both countries. Sadly it’s a Global problem.
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It's also in large part also 'availability bias' and social media mechanics.El Scorchio wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 01:03There are (a small minority of) nasty ignorant people in both countries. Sadly it’s a Global problem.
There's a difference between the optimum racing line that yields the best lap time, and a racing line. Hence the reason why when two cars are fighting cars behind quickly catch up because neither of the two drivers fighting are taking optimal lines.Lock2nl wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 23:45That is correct. But that really isn't important. Once he got there for a very brief moment, he lost speed in the braking zone much more than Max had too (as the racing line is from the outside in). So Lewis had to know it would never work there. Still, he did not back off. And after having picked up some dirt before the braking zone he was bound to understeer into Max. And he did that a wheel base behind Max.
You’re wrong.pantherxxx wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 01:43Yes, Max could have made more room, but Lewis should have absolutely backed off due to missing the apex.
At that point the only possible trajectory the car would be able to go is straight into max, and Lewis STILL committed.
This is a full out high speed corner, he knows that, he's won on this track 8 times, but he still kept the gas on? really?
100% Lewis’s fault. Yet he came straight on the radio saying ‘he turned in on me man’, and ‘I was ahead going in there man’.
These are outright lies, Hamilton knows it, and anyone who watches the replays properly knows it.
Definitely a race suspension.
Oh come on, a minority can be as few as one. I'm enjoying watching Verstappen because I'm tired of Mercedes and Hamilton walking away with it all the time. It's great to see aggression from both Max and Lewis; this season might be a really memorable one.I think a minority of Max fans are just using Max as a proxy to root against Lewis for racial reasons.
It can be, but as small as a sample as this forum is of F1 fandom, there still was one here. Based on the use of the monkey emoji on IG to Mercedes post, I’m not wrong and it’s disgusting.Rodak wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 01:52Oh come on, a minority can be as few as one. I'm enjoying watching Verstappen because I'm tired of Mercedes and Hamilton walking away with it all the time. It's great to see aggression from both Max and Lewis; this season might be a really memorable one.I think a minority of Max fans are just using Max as a proxy to root against Lewis for racial reasons.
Because outcomes are not penalized. It’s the action that is penalized.carisi2k wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 01:51Way too many Lewis sympathisers here. Lewis is 100% to blame for this incident. His front wing touched Max's rear wheel and it doesn't matter what Max may or may not have been doing beforehand for which he may have been penalised for. Lewis didn't have the corner and basically punted Max in to his 51G accident. This should have been a black flag for Lewis and not a 10 second penalty. How can this penalty be the same as what happened with Norris and Perez at Austria when Max is out of the race and in Hospital. This is Senna / Prost in Japan 1990.
Hoffman900 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 01:53Why do you guys keep bringing up 51g’s as if it matters? It doesn’t. The penalty should be decided on the actions, not the outcomes.
Indy Car and NASCAR routinely have “51g” crashes and they aren’t used to garner sympathy, either are precautionary trips to the hospital.
Oh please this is an utterly ridiculous comment.rogazilla wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 01:58Lewis has had practice to know just how to hit the Red Bull’s right rear tires. 2019 brazil, 2020 Austria and 2021 British. Regardless of intent or how, he seems to hit the Red Bull car each time just right to send them spinning while doing little damage to his car in comparison.
Oh I known exactly what they are doing. I think it’s reckless, but Team Principals are every bit as disingenuous as politicians when trying to rile up their base. All of them, except maybe Steiner, but he’s an old rally car guy, so he’s a salt of the earth typedans79 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 02:07Hoffman900 wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 01:53Why do you guys keep bringing up 51g’s as if it matters? It doesn’t. The penalty should be decided on the actions, not the outcomes.
Indy Car and NASCAR routinely have “51g” crashes and they aren’t used to garner sympathy, either are precautionary trips to the hospital.
It's the same justification tactic that Horner is using. The average fan knows nothing about racing, so by sighting a number and acting like it's a big deal they riling up the fans who don't know any better.