2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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politburo wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:52
DChemTech wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:48
politburo wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:43


Yes I have watched the onboards, Ocon, Vettel and Hamilton were all in contact with their teams. If that is not allowed then all three of those plus more drivers will have to get penalties. The reace was already underway at that point you can talk back and forth with your team. Not on the formation lap. The safety car lap is not the formation lap it is simply the lap the safety car does to get drivers back to the grid for the restart.
Would be hilarious if they get penalized and alonso actually wins. Normally those kind of things are only seen in speedwalking :) (but of course, not gonna happen)
Ocon, Sainz, Vettel all have been summoned. If they get penalties Hamilton wins the race.
Not going to happen but it'd be funny to see the Max fan's reaction. To quote a movie. "It's gonna be biblical"

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Magicsenna_41 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:48
RZS10 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:41
Mercedes easily had the gap in the queue to stop and come out without being stuck in their box.

https://i.imgur.com/wJhLrjM.png

All those cars at the front managed to keep their position.
So the guy behind Russell it's Alonso right? Did he deliberately slowed down in the pit entry? Seems to be like...
Yea he opened a gap for a double stack behind Ocon.

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proteus wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:51
NathanOlder wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:20
Very good point from George Russell there. If Merc. had pitted Lewis at the start, As they havebthe 1st pit box, they wouldn't have been able to release him until the last car came through, so would have ended almost last anyway.
But he still would not be last.
But as the first person to pit, everyone could have carried onto the grid and he'd being last again.
I wonder how fast those slicks could go on a Merc at full pelt. If he'd have given it a few laps could he being fast enough to come out in the middle or are they really that slow, but it is hard to pass?

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politburo wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:52
DChemTech wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:48
politburo wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:43


Yes I have watched the onboards, Ocon, Vettel and Hamilton were all in contact with their teams. If that is not allowed then all three of those plus more drivers will have to get penalties. The reace was already underway at that point you can talk back and forth with your team. Not on the formation lap. The safety car lap is not the formation lap it is simply the lap the safety car does to get drivers back to the grid for the restart.
Would be hilarious if they get penalized and alonso actually wins. Normally those kind of things are only seen in speedwalking :) (but of course, not gonna happen)
Ocon, Sainz, Vettel all have been summoned. If they get penalties Hamilton wins the race.
With the luck/FIAid he's had so far this season, it wouldn't be implausible... :p
But nah, still not gonna happen.

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f1jcw wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:55
politburo wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:52
DChemTech wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:48


Would be hilarious if they get penalized and alonso actually wins. Normally those kind of things are only seen in speedwalking :) (but of course, not gonna happen)
Ocon, Sainz, Vettel all have been summoned. If they get penalties Hamilton wins the race.
Not going to happen but it'd be funny to see the Max fan's reaction. To quote a movie. "It's gonna be biblical"
The stewards normally don't summon you unless there is reasonable cause. I think it more likely to happen that Hamilton gets the win after the penalties.
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NathanOlder wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:53
Schuttelberg wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:46
Hmm, let's see-

Car in the gravel in Imola -18 points. (saved by red flag)
Put another car in the gravel (main title rival) in Silverstone and DNF -25 points (saved by red flag)
Blocked title rival yesterday and had team mate take out main title rival who would have won the race without it -13 points
Main title rival has tyre failure and loses 25 points while making a mistake yourself and losing 25 points. (Baku)

What does that total up to? =D>
It totals up to you not watching qualifying yesterday, as that's a load of rubbish and not what happened.
I'm still trying to work out what he's saying.

First point, seems to be that Mercedes was the slower car at Imola (-18 not -25).
Second point, Mercedes was the slower car at Silverstone (-25 points).
Third point, that Red Bull Racing would've won the race today, so is a faster car.
Fourth point, in Baku, Red Bull had the faster car and would've won without the tyre blow out.

So, I think it's pretty clear he's agreeing with me? He's just wording it really strangely.

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politburo wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:58
f1jcw wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:55
politburo wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:52


Ocon, Sainz, Vettel all have been summoned. If they get penalties Hamilton wins the race.
Not going to happen but it'd be funny to see the Max fan's reaction. To quote a movie. "It's gonna be biblical"
The stewards normally don't summon you unless there is reasonable cause. I think it more likely to happen that Hamilton gets the win after the penalties.
The will get fines at most (and it would be a travesty if they even get those).

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f1jcw wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:57
proteus wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:51
NathanOlder wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:20
Very good point from George Russell there. If Merc. had pitted Lewis at the start, As they havebthe 1st pit box, they wouldn't have been able to release him until the last car came through, so would have ended almost last anyway.
But he still would not be last.
But as the first person to pit, everyone could have carried onto the grid and he'd being last again.
I wonder how fast those slicks could go on a Merc at full pelt. If he'd have given it a few laps could he being fast enough to come out in the middle or are they really that slow, but it is hard to pass?
IIRC the gap to Russell was instantly shrinking.

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RZS10 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 19:00
f1jcw wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:57
proteus wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:51


But he still would not be last.
But as the first person to pit, everyone could have carried onto the grid and he'd being last again.
I wonder how fast those slicks could go on a Merc at full pelt. If he'd have given it a few laps could he being fast enough to come out in the middle or are they really that slow, but it is hard to pass?
IIRC the gap to Russell was instantly shrinking.
In the past he has driven them enough that they turned to slicks

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Schuttelberg wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:24
Hamilton leading the championship again in such an inferior car! :lol:
Mmm, yes, drown me in the sweet tears of your envy

Joking aside, any neutral observer would tell you that Red Bull had the faster car for the majority of the season, and they didn't, or couldn't make the most of it.
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Apparently Vettel is being investigated for his T-shirt?
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Somebody tell Mercedes they are competing in F1, not destruction derby :lol:

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f1jcw wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 19:02
RZS10 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 19:00
f1jcw wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:57


But as the first person to pit, everyone could have carried onto the grid and he'd being last again.
I wonder how fast those slicks could go on a Merc at full pelt. If he'd have given it a few laps could he being fast enough to come out in the middle or are they really that slow, but it is hard to pass?
IIRC the gap to Russell was instantly shrinking.
In the past he has driven them enough that they turned to slicks
That was on a slowly drying very cold track which wasn't really dry enough for slicks like in Turkey - no way to pull that off in the heat and a completely dry track here.

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Tizz wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:50
El Scorchio wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 17:45
Tizz wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 17:45
No, it was already obvious during the race. And they pay people to see this.
Best get your CV in order and send it off then!
I just tried to contest your first comment and this is your reply ?
It was only a joke!

Although they did just say on the coverage that Alonso was kept out to avoid Vettel getting Ocon so that’s probably the answer right there.

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
01 Aug 2021, 18:47
with Renault in Signapore in which Truli purposefully did the mistake to promote Alonso to Win.
That was Piquet Jr., not Trulli.
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