2021 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, Aug 27 - 29

[El Scorchio]

No chance for Perez to start?

Masi said no.

Sad would be good if at least 10/20 car will see finish

It does seem a shame, but if it’s been interpreted that him starting would be against the regs then that’s that. Objectively I don’t see the harm it would necessarily do to let him in if he starts from the back and they haven’t changed anything on the setup.

[214270]

What the hell is going on? How can the race not have technically started?

Chaos.

[El Scorchio]

Red Bull trying to persuade Masi into letting Perez into the race.

Arguing semantics.

They should allow him to race.

If there’s nothing to prohibit it, then sure.

[JordanMugen]

38.1. 40 minutes before the start of the formation lap the pit exit will be opened and all cars, including
any that are required to start the race from the pit lane, will be permitted to leave the pit lane
to cover a reconnaissance lap. ... Any car which does not complete a reconnaissance lap and reach the grid under its own power will not be permitted to start the race from the grid...

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... -07-12.pdf

I wonder what Red Bull are arguing? Perez is clearly excluded.

[Restomaniac]

Red Bull trying to persuade Masi into letting Perez into the race.

Arguing semantics.

It’s more than just that at risk.
If they say no because the race has started then surely we are out of parc ferme.

My point is that this could get messy.

[JordanMugen]

Red Bull trying to persuade Masi into letting Perez into the race.

Arguing semantics.

It’s more than just that at risk.
If they say no because the race has started then surely we are out of parc ferme.

My point is that this could get messy.

The rule is clear cut though. Cars must complete reconnaissance laps under their own power.

38.2 ...Any car which is still in the pit lane can start from the end of the pit lane provided it got there under its own power.

Cars may not start from pitlane if they did not get there under their own power either.

[214270]

Red Bull trying to persuade Masi into letting Perez into the race.

Arguing semantics.

It’s more than just that at risk.
If they say no because the race has started then surely we are out of parc ferme.

My point is that this could get messy.

The rule is clear cut though. Cars must complete reconnaissance laps under their own power.

…to start from the grid.

Says nothing about from the pit lane.

[proteus]

This shift that made races an hour later was a terrible idea. As allways they took the decision with their closed eyes and thinking only about the money.

[JordanMugen]

It’s more than just that at risk.
If they say no because the race has started then surely we are out of parc ferme.

My point is that this could get messy.

The rule is clear cut though. Cars must complete reconnaissance laps under their own power.

…to start from the grid.

Says nothing about from the pit lane.

I amended it:

38.2 ...Any car which is still in the pit lane can start from the end of the pit lane provided it got there under its own power.

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... -07-12.pdf

I'm sure Red Bull know the regulations, so it is a little baffling what they are trying to argue!

[NathanOlder]

Red Bull trying to persuade Masi into letting Perez into the race.

Arguing semantics.

Horner saying they didnt have any assistance to get the car back ?!?!

[politburo]

If the FIA did a "start procedure suspended" rather than "race suspended", does this mean the race hasn't started?. And thus Perez can start the race when the race procedure is resumed, be it a lap down?.

[djones]

This shift that made races an hour later was a terrible idea. As allways they took the decision with their closed eyes and thinking only about the money.

But if it was raining 1hr before and then dry you would be saying it was a great idea to make it 1hr later.

[El Scorchio]

Can’t blame the RBR team for trying under any technicality they can.

As an aside, I wonder who Horner will try and bill for the damage to Perez’ car?

[godlameroso]

Rain until 5pm local time.

[Restomaniac]

Red Bull trying to persuade Masi into letting Perez into the race.

Arguing semantics.

It’s more than just that at risk.
If they say no because the race has started then surely we are out of parc ferme.

My point is that this could get messy.

The rule is clear cut though. Cars must complete reconnaissance laps under their own power.

True but all the cars are going to have to do that again anyway.

That’s the point, no race start means it’s a reset so if Perez gets his lap to the grid then why not?