2021 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, Aug 27 - 29

[dtro]

I remember when we would race in the rain as long as the medical helicopter could take off. What happened to that? What a farcical event.

[basti313]

I think Haas and Alfa might be a bit annoyed. Those nine points are a lot harder to claw back at the bottom end of the championship.

Exactly what I said earlier. Let’s be brutally honest, the chances of both Williams cars staying in those positions in an actual race probably wasn’t very likely.

Why? In a real race Rus would have given the position to Ham, but why should he fall behind P3? Vet or Ric posted half a second slower times on an improved track in Q. So if they started anything under slightly lower rain, I do not see Rus falling much behind.

[politburo]

It’s clear there was no intention of having them out without the safety car all in the name of financial gain, I am sure. The points allocation is almost the secondary issue here.

A defensible and more condemning reading is that they already had this plan in mind when they invoked force majure to ignore the 3hr rule, to buy them more time to play this stupid 2 lap game.

Terrible day all around.

They hoped they could get an hour gap, that is why the used the force majeure. It seemed that wAy at a point. After the yellow radar images it seemed to clear up. But didn’t. So they went out for the 2 laps to honour the Qualy result, grid Punishments etc.

Nothing to be done. Look at the w series crash and caio collets moment. They went safety first.

The worst “race” in years. Crikey, what a bore.

If you watched the whole F3 race you'd see that they were handling eau rouge easily in the wet and misty conditions even going in two-wide, some even missing the apex and still nail the corner, they were struggling more at Les Combes and Rivage for grip under braking and also due to visibility issues at the start of the race but also the rain stopped midway thru the race and got better hence why they did full races.

[astralx]

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[NL_Fer]

Bigger tyres, more sophisticated aero and a few big crashes in other sessions…

[mzso]

The idiotic security theater of F1 reached some sort of threshold. Most pathetic race ever.
They should have just started the race as soon as the rain lessened a bit, like 15:30 as Verstappen said. Drive 4-5 laps behind SC to get used to it then go.
Poor visibility? drive cautiously as always in such situations. Aquaplaning? Drive with having the aquaplaning in mind like always.

I remember when we would race in the rain as long as the medical helicopter could take off. What happened to that? What a farcical event.

BS-ification, whining and coin counting.

[Big Tea]

How will the new design affect spray? will it throw it to the side, or throw more of it up?

[turbof1]

Nice work Lewis. Great comment on behalf of the fans getting their money back. Kudos.

PR stunt.

Why should they get a refund for the weather. It's not the fault of the track, FIA or F1.

When I've gone to events that ended up ultimately being canceled because of rain or some other natural occurrence fans got their money back.

Back in 2011 they had to cancel a festival I participated to, due such bad weather people died to it. I didn't get a refund, however I did get a free ticket for the year after plus free coupons for several successive years. So yeah, a case definitely can be made for fans getting their money back OR some other form of compensation for such occurences.

[Big Tea]

PR stunt.

Why should they get a refund for the weather. It's not the fault of the track, FIA or F1.

When I've gone to events that ended up ultimately being canceled because of rain or some other natural occurrence fans got their money back.

Back in 2011 they had to cancel a festival I participated to, due such bad weather people died to it. I didn't get a refund, however I did get a free ticket for the year after plus free coupons for several successive years. So yeah, a case definitely can be made for fans getting their money back OR some other form of compensation for such occurences.

Not sure if it was Silverstone or Brands, but an event cancelled that had 6 races and only 3 run gave a 50% discount off any other even t the following year.

[Hoffman900]

PR stunt.

Why should they get a refund for the weather. It's not the fault of the track, FIA or F1.

When I've gone to events that ended up ultimately being canceled because of rain or some other natural occurrence fans got their money back.

Back in 2011 they had to cancel a festival I participated to, due such bad weather people died to it. I didn't get a refund, however I did get a free ticket for the year after plus free coupons for several successive years. So yeah, a case definitely can be made for fans getting their money back OR some other form of compensation for such occurences.

Depends.

F1 has no real competition, so as long as they met the letter of their contracts (likely an “official race”) then they’re good. The lack of competition means they can do what they want beyond that and get away with it.

Anyone buy a ticket in the last year for a F1 race? What does the fine print say when you do?

[Just_a_fan]

A morning shooting, a few beers with the boys, a very nice Sunday lunch with SWMBO and friends.

So glad I didn't waste my Sunday waiting for the race that wasn't.

F1 really needs to work harder...

[the poster below]

Unfortunate that the race couldn't happen, and a bit bizarre IMO that the rules stipulate 2 laps as the threshold for any points, but I guess that's as good as any threshold.

The rooster tails and subsequent hang time for the displaced water is a big problem... Would larger tyres that space the cars further from the ground minimise the effect so that visibility wasn't impaired so much? Better wet tyres all round wouldn't go amiss as some have said

[Big Tea]

A morning shooting, a few beers with the boys, a very nice Sunday lunch with SWMBO and friends.

So glad I didn't waste my Sunday waiting for the race that wasn't.

F1 really needs to work harder...

You missed ALL the good stuff, it will not be re-shown

[Hoffman900]

Unfortunate that the race couldn't happen, and a bit bizarre IMO that the rules stipulate 2 laps as the threshold for any points, but I guess that's as good as any threshold.

The rooster tails and subsequent hang time for the displaced water is a big problem... Would larger tyres that space the cars further from the ground minimise the effect so that visibility wasn't impaired so much? Better wet tyres all round wouldn't go amiss as some have said

Better and larger wet tires would displace more water, and put more in the air.

Slicks would have minimized spray a bit

[El Scorchio]

I think Haas and Alfa might be a bit annoyed. Those nine points are a lot harder to claw back at the bottom end of the championship.

Exactly what I said earlier. Let’s be brutally honest, the chances of both Williams cars staying in those positions in an actual race probably wasn’t very likely.

Why? In a real race Rus would have given the position to Ham, but why should he fall behind P3? Vet or Ric posted half a second slower times on an improved track in Q. So if they started anything under slightly lower rain, I do not see Rus falling much behind.

I just don’t see the Williams being as competitive over a long distance in race conditions as it was in qualification. Russell would have been too slow on the straights to keep cars behind him and while he may be faster in the more downforce dependent parts of the track, that’s not really where you can pass easily in the wet.