2021 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort Sept 3 - 5

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Wouter
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First fans are on the circuit. It is a beautiful weather with lots of sunshine, no clouds!

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Mogster
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I still can’t believe F1 cars are back at Zandvoort.

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Also Lewis, much better dressed this time!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-RMASrXMAE ... name=small


Lewis talking to Russell... oh I mean Roscoe 😝

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RZS10
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Watched F3 practice, the upper line of the banking in T3 is extremely bumpy ... also several red flags in that session looks like they needed them to clean massive amounts of gravel from the track.

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maxxer wrote:
02 Sep 2021, 22:19
GOAT wrote:
02 Sep 2021, 21:59
maxxer wrote:
02 Sep 2021, 21:45

You are going easy on Bernhard Jr. with what he is doing with the real estate he owns :)
The haves and the have nots…

So what is he actually doing with the real estate he owns?
He is part of the investors who buy up houses in Amsterdam and drive up rental prices , he has been in the news alot for that over the years.
“Drive up rental prices”, how does that work- because last time I checked we live in a world dominated by supply and demand.
Especially with Expats flocking to Amsterdam to work for companies like Booking.com and the expats pay any price, but as soon as Corona started Booking.com was one of the first companies to ask for state support.
What does booking.com has to do with Bernhard Jr.?

“Pay any price” :lol: you clearly do not know what you’re talking about- being a real estate agent in Amsterdam myself and having booking.com as one of our clients.
And there have been complaints about the places he rents out things not getting fixed and all.
You can’t often repair something immediately, that is broken- something a lot of tenants do not understand, but house owners do.
Been going on for awhile that there is even talk about a Bernhard Tax to make sure when you own a property you actually have to live in it to stop these investors just buying up houses to live in.
Jealousy driven- a lot of people do have the ‘spending power’ to afford an apartment in Amsterdam- as proven by the number of transactions.
On the other hand Zandvoort has been falling in decay over the years so part of having the GP there is also sort of having the Olympics in East London so to invest back into the community. They do have a better rail connection and such which is government funded, but because of the GP
This being a Formula 1 website- I honestly do not understand the fuss? Be thankful someone stook out his neck, in order to arrange for a Dutch GP.

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Spinoda

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On which turn can they overtake on this circuit? I can’t see that point.

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Szabi1112 wrote:
03 Sep 2021, 11:35
On which turn can they overtake on this circuit? I can’t see that point.
Zandvoort's all about big b*****ks -- not DRS passes, says circuit designer Jarno Zaffelli.


Jarno Zaffelli, owner of the Dromo track design firm, says that the layout is deliberately designed to disorientate drivers, and that the best will be able to find their way past other cars.

It has been suggested that this will reduce overtaking, but Zaffelli said that the short, tight circuit offered more opportunities than it might seem.

"This track is not about overtaking with DRS. That's for other kinds of circuits with long straights," he said.

"Here, it is about big bollocks. In the end, this is racing.

"Everybody remembers Senna for how he drove over the limit -- counter-steering at 300km/h (186mph).

"Now it's very difficult for drivers to do that for a lot of reasons in the modern era. But on this track, at some point, they have to do it otherwise they will go slow.

"There are multiple lines through several corners and that is why we expect there will be overtaking opportunities."

"Even if they did hundreds of laps in the simulators... it's like downhill skiing: you watch it on television and think, 'OK, not bad', but if you go yourself, it's something different.

"Zandvoort is all about the perception of the driver. It's all about what the driver is feeling and looking at because he's not used to these geometries, he's not used to these inclinations. He's not used to the curves."

The kerbs have even been painted with rectangles of differing sizes to alter drivers' perception of speed.

"Our philosophy behind it is to try and cheat the driver's perceptions," said Zaffelli. "So it's all about using the nature, using the shapes, using the geometries that we have coupled with a specific asphalt, specific techniques, all these kinds of things to put something together that is unique.

"This opens up a concept where human behaviour is at the centre. These are the best drivers in the world probably, we absolutely need to challenge them.

"We need to get back this human feeling. Just a bit like in motorcycling where the man is more important than the machine. Here we are trying to see the difference between boy and man."
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single-seaters/f 1/zandvoorts-all-about-big-bks-not-drs-passes-says-circuit-d esigner
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God it's taken them a long time to act over Vettel's car. Basically stopped on track with he and the marshals on there, and only a yellow flag for minutes....

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I can already see the Q1 queue being a complete disaster.

One thing that surprises me is that they only start accelerating for their laps into the second to last corner - wouldn't they want to accelerate earlier to carry more speed into the lap?

Same as F3 they apparently need a red flag for every single stranded car since the tightness of the track does not allow a safe recovery otherwise ... and nothing has happened in several minutes, he stopped more than ten minutes ago, what are they doing?

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Early days, but I’m not sure we’re gonna see good racing here.
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Question is, if Vettel’s car is still stranded in T1 come Sunday, will we do two laps behind the SC based on the finishing order from last race, and award half points?

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El Scorchio
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What on earth is going on? Why haven't they moved the car yet? This is very poor.

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Wtf. How many people and time you need to remove a car? Come on

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It seems that ERS light is not green

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Terrible organization #-o .