As Mercedes pulled every strategy trick they could imagine, they were at no point a threat to Red Bull's Max Verstappen, resulting in a composed victory in front of the very pleased "orange army". Hamilton and Bottas ended up second and third.
George is a monster, He will eat any driver on the grid in the same car on Saturdays. Lewis will have to be smart on Sundays to beat him. will be like Mclaren 1984 again.JordanMugen wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 16:57Sure, but at least we can compare Lewis and George directly in the 2022 season, so that will be a good battle.
It is obvious hat the car is designed to suit his driving style. They are putting all their eggs in one basket. This is the first year that this philosophy seems to have worked but it ain’t over yet. Redbull’s resurgence had a lot to do with the curveball Mercedes got thrown with this years floor regulations. For me merc is still the superior constructor and next year it will be obvious once again. If verstappen doesnt win the wdc this year he may not be able to win one ever again with Redbull.cplchanb wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 16:46think about it though... had the car been more balanced towards other drivers other than max it probably wouldve had compromises that would slow the cars overall pace down. max has been with the team since 2016 as markos prodigy so development since then was always going to be centered around him. they wont admit it, but max is their #1 driver like schumacher at ferrari hands down.JordanMugen wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 16:34
Or it's just built in the direction which is fastest? It's not like Benetton for instance deliberately made a car that was hard to drive, they just made the fastest car they could. It's not up to them to reinvent the wheel so Verstappen Snr, Herbert, Alesi or Berger could drive it better. Same goes for Red Bull.
What a load of bull from VDG, I seriously doubt Max told him that simply because it isn't true. I checked the onboard and everything looks normal, DRS just didn't open fully/properly. DRS isn't opened until very late into 7th gear anyway. Verstappen lost around 10 km/h at the start finish line as a result of this. Only 293 kmh on his final run compared to 306 kmh on first Q3 run (he had a bit of slipstream on that one).
I expect zero actual pit stops in the race.Ryar wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 16:55So far, everything points to Incidents filled circus tomorrow. Pit stops would come free.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 16:54Thanks. That little mistake almost cost him pole. Hmm. I still feel his car is set up on the nose. Heavily loaded front wing. Definitely a qually biased set up and one that should give him blistering outlaps but at the expense of outright tyre life. Will be interesting tomorrow for sure.
George will settle that debate next year. We will see who is capable of extracting more out of a Mercedes.
He will be more than a pitstop behind after 20 laps easyispano6 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 16:58Max's DRS opened for the beginning of sector 3 but it seemed it didn't for the last straight. When he crossed the line it appeared the DRS closed from a barely open position. Maybe there was an actual issue.
For the race Perez could go long, maybe even start on mediums and go long enough to hold up the Mercedes. Will need to count on some fast pitstops.
It would finally be a good battle for 2nd.NathanOlder wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 17:02George is a monster, He will eat any driver on the grid in the same car on Saturdays. Lewis will have to be smart on Sundays to beat him. will be like Mclaren 1984 again.JordanMugen wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 16:57Sure, but at least we can compare Lewis and George directly in the 2022 season, so that will be a good battle.
Vd garde was wrong indeed. Max himself just said he mistakenly shortshifted after turn 3 (which is indeed audible on the onboard), and the DRS was a separate issue.Juzh wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 17:03What a load of bull from VDG, I seriously doubt Max told him that simply because it isn't true. I checked the onboard and everything looks normal, DRS just didn't open fully/properly. DRS isn't opened until very late into 7th gear anyway. Verstappen lost around 10 km/h at the start finish line as a result of this. Only 293 kmh on his final run compared to 306 kmh on first Q3 run (he had a bit of slipstream on that one).
Clip below. Nothing audible to be noticed, all gear shifts seem normal and on time, even the one before the banking when he went from 6th to 5th, so I don't know what they're on about:
For sure and I will wait for the day when again George will dominate RB and some will say that it is only because of car as Lord Max will not be driving the same carRyar wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 17:04George will settle that debate next year. We will see who is capable of extracting more out of a Mercedes.
Exactly! I don’t understand why some feel the need to constantly bash one to qualify their opinion about the other. It is what it is. Two fantastic drivers at the sharp end of the grid.101FlyingDutchman wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 17:10Simple fact is that I think you’re seeing the two stand out drivers going at it hammer and tongs.
It’s enough for me to see the admiration that both Button and Rosberg seem to have for the driving ability on display of both. That isn’t “fake”. They’ve been there. And as Button said, PER is QUICK. It takes something special to be on it virtually all the time. It’s what separates the “good” from the “greats”. Unrelenting.
Enjoy the show
Yeah, that one was a bit of a blunder. Probably lost a tenth there. Add DRS issue on top and you've got 2 tenths in hand.DChemTech wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 17:07Vd garde was wrong indeed. Max himself just said he mistakenly shortshifted after turn 3 (which is indeed audible on the onboard), and the DRS was a separate issue.Juzh wrote: ↑04 Sep 2021, 17:03What a load of bull from VDG, I seriously doubt Max told him that simply because it isn't true. I checked the onboard and everything looks normal, DRS just didn't open fully/properly. DRS isn't opened until very late into 7th gear anyway. Verstappen lost around 10 km/h at the start finish line as a result of this. Only 293 kmh on his final run compared to 306 kmh on first Q3 run (he had a bit of slipstream on that one).
Clip below. Nothing audible to be noticed, all gear shifts seem normal and on time, even the one before the banking when he went from 6th to 5th, so I don't know what they're on about:
